Drain plug crush washer

So I never change the washers on drain plugs and never have a leaking issue.

That streak ended.

I was able to get 2 changed without a leak and on the 3rd change I had a 2 or 3 drop leak overnight and that was after giving her another 1/4 turn.
So change those washers!

Those things are 2.49 each at the dealer he went to 1.90 for me. Actually didn't see cheaper online but see Dorman has a 3 pack for 2.99 so I'll go with those unless any of you have a better place to go???

That orig. Crush washer was so flat it didn't look like it was even on There! I had to use a razor blade to pry it up haha.
All good now!

Exact same thing happened on my '17. Two oil changes. Tiny drip only when oil was hot no matter how tight I made the bolt. The crush washer was so thin it was like nothing was there, had to pry it off with a knife. Crush washer for my motorcycle was exactly the right size so I used one of them to fix it.

What kind of washers are you guys using? I'm using a copper one right now.

I bought a whole package of OEM ones when I bought my case of OEM filters. The first one lasted through about 7-8 oil changes.

They have been changed each time since.

https://i.imgur.com/yr0BERS.jpg

We have some threads that discuss oil drain plugs & washers.

Top_Fuel replaced his drain plug with a magnetic plug and bought a pack of washers.

Dripping Oil Drain Plug Fixed

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...So I headed up to AutoZone and picked up a $4 assortment of M14 drain plug washers. While I was there, I saw that that they had a magnetic drain plug that fit the Mirage, so I went ahead and picked one up for $5.

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He has a good write-up with part numbers and other details.

Does anyone have a list of part numbers for all the various washers? It would be good to have that list in one easy-to-find place.

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Alex1a1f has done away with the drain plug & washer setup and uses a Fumoto oil drain valve.

Fumoto Oil Drain Valve Specs

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Originally Posted by Alex1a1f

...I have had the same valve (F106S) and elbow (L-001) for well over 500,000 miles and can vouch for their reliability. I know I would never go without one. :-)

If you're worried about the valve opening, you don't need to. The valve is spring loaded and needs to be lifted
before it is turned. However, they do make some clips (listed below) to ease those worries.

I thought I'd throw some information and pictures down for anyone interested for themselves.


http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/s...ner/Fumoto.jpg

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Again, we have another good, detailed post with a discussion on the merits of these valves.

I put on a Fumoto oil drain valve and expect that I won't have to worry about the washer - though I don't do a lot of oil changes. My favorite aspect of this valve is I am able to attach a section of hose to route the drain into an old oil bottle with no mess. This also makes it easy to collect a sample for analysis.

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Originally Posted by Eggman

We have some threads that discuss oil drain plugs & washers.

Top_Fuel replaced his drain plug with a magnetic plug and bought a pack of washers.

Dripping Oil Drain Plug Fixed



He has a good write-up with part numbers and other details.

Does anyone have a list of part numbers for all the various washers? It would be good to have that list in one easy-to-find place.

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Alex1a1f has done away with the drain plug & washer setup and uses a Fumoto oil drain valve.

Fumoto Oil Drain Valve Specs



Again, we have another good, detailed post with a discussion on the merits of these valves.

I put on a Fumoto oil drain valve and expect that I won't have to worry about the washer - though I don't do a lot of oil changes. My favorite aspect of this valve is I am able to attach a section of hose to route the drain into an old oil bottle with no mess. This also makes it easy to collect a sample for analysis.

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Once these washers and filters...and powertrain warranty...are gone, I am going Fumoto. Had one on my Metro and loved it!

I'd be worried about something like a rock bouncing up and knocking that thing off and you would never know it until your engine starts knocking when it's out of oil.
Cool concept though. If there was a guard in front maybe.

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I'd be worried about something like a rock bouncing up and knocking that thing off and you would never know it until your engine starts knocking when it's out of oil.

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That's why I keep the drain plug in my glove box in a little plastic bag. :)

I notice that some of the Fumoto valves pictured use what looks like fiber washers/gaskets.

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I'd be worried about something like a rock bouncing up and knocking that thing off and you would never know it until your engine starts knocking when it's out of oil.
Cool concept though. If there was a guard in front maybe.

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500k + on mine and it still works perfectly. It would take more than a rock to destroy it to the point of it leaking oil.

I take the factory one off and throw it in the garbage during the first oil change. It's way easier to remove that way! Then just use an aluminum one that LOOKS like this:https://www.amazon.com/Aluminum-Engi.../dp/B00X8DDMQA I don't know the size off hand. They last a long time if you don't want to replace them every time and aren't a pita to remove.

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I take the factory one off and throw it in the garbage during the first oil change. It's way easier to remove that way! Then just use an aluminum one that LOOKS like this:https://www.amazon.com/Aluminum-Engine-Washer-Gaskets-94109-140-00/dp/B00X8DDMQA I don't know the size off hand. They last a long time if you don't want to replace them every time and aren't a pita to remove.

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I agree with Fummins' advice/suggestion. I haven't had my Mirage that long, but one of my former vehicles (2000 Honda CRV) had the aluminum drain plug gasket. I always kept a spare aluminum gasket handy, but they seldom needed to be replaced. Honda suggested replacing them with each oil change, but I found that not to be necessary. They lasted through several oil changes, and I owned that vehicle for years with no issues.

Tossing the original crushed washer is the thing to do for sure. The original washer is easy to overlook, because it's crushed so thin & painted black like the drain plug. Others have mentioned this, but places like AutoZone have assortment packs. Living over 10 miles from town, I had bought one of these prior to my first oil change. I didn't want to make a second trip to town for a lousy washer, & I was a little uncertain on what I would need the first time doing this.

Within the AutoZone pack (M14), I would feel comfortable using the aluminum gasket, copper gasket, and the one that is a combination of metal/rubber. The nylon gaskets seems sort of thick for the shortness of the stock drain plug threads, but they may even be ok. I lean toward using the aluminum or copper gaskets, because I have had good luck with them on a different car.

I have always done my own oil changes. I have never used a Fumoto oil drain plug valve, but I am giving it some consideration. Since the drain hole is on the back side of the oil pan, I would feel comfortable using a Fumoto valve if it doesn't stick out to much below the oil pan. I would appreciate anyone's insight on that. Would one Fumoto style (for example: F106, F106S, or F106SX) work better than another on a Mirage oil pan?

I appreciate everyone's great advice on this forum! Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Fummins

I take the factory one off and throw it in the garbage during the first oil change. It's way easier to remove that way! Then just use an aluminum one that LOOKS like this:[urlhttps://amzn.to/2q4DhGx]https://www.amazon.com/Aluminum-Engine-Washer-Gaskets-94109-140-00/dp/B00X8DDMQA[/url] I don't know the size off hand. They last a long time if you don't want to replace them every time and aren't a pita to remove.

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Are those the exact ones? Do you use them on the fleet?

F106SX can be more easily positioned.

P.S. wait for a Fumoto sale on either their product or shipping.

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Are those the exact ones? Do you use them on the fleet?

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No they aren't. I don't know if they'll work on the Mirage. The ones I get look similar. I get them from the dealer when I get oil filters, they just come in a plain bag. I assume the dealer must buy them in bulk and not even use the oem crush type washer.

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No they aren't. I don't know if they'll work on the Mirage. The ones I get look similar. I get them from the dealer when I get oil filters, they just come in a plain bag. I assume the dealer must buy them in bulk and not even use the oem crush type washer.

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Oh so they have them in bulk packs at the mitsu dealers? I'll just ask for aluminum washers then?

I installed the Ez Oil Drail valve (Canadian version of the Fumoto valve) on my Mirage. Added the right angle hose attachment to it. Very happy with it. The right angle is too much if the car is on ramps (would be better at 45 degrees) but it is great if you don't want to use ramps. Which is possible if you have long arms and this valve, and a small pan (I use disposable aluminum foil pans). If you do it this way, you don't have to jack the car up at all after installing the valve.

Make sure you install it tight and do NOT use a gasket except for the integrated one with the valve. I had to use a wrench to get mine tight enough and in the right position.

For those of you in Canada, find a local distributor for the valve. I didn't pay anything more than the website price, but no shipping and had it within a couple of hours here in the GTA (Went to Albion Auto Parts).

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Originally Posted by Pryme

I'd be worried about something like a rock bouncing up and knocking that thing off and you would never know it until your engine starts knocking when it's out of oil.
Cool concept though. If there was a guard in front maybe.

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I really want to one of these on each of my Burgman's but that my exact worry, knocking it off. I bottom out the Burgs quite often entering parking lots, moreso with a passenger.

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F106SX can be more easily positioned.

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I have this one, I can't remember off the top of my head how much it's exposed, but it should be less than the fixed position models.

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Oh so they have them in bulk packs at the mitsu dealers? I'll just ask for aluminum washers then?

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The dealer I deal with has them, can't say for sure if every other dealer stocks them them like that? I assume they should know what you need at the parts counter.

Not all dealers stock all of them. The place I went to only had popular ones in inventory, would have had to order special parts (was searching for one for the transmission pan of an E350, couldn't find one). Whoever you deal with, just call first!