CVT owners... what is "Idle Neutral Logic"? And what is it like to drive?

I hate this stupid idiot logic thing. If you are on the 210 heavy traffic in Pasadena CA, makes you want to take it in for a trany change! But then I can put it in D5 and it rocks. Even the engine breaks helps keep speed but not use the brakes to rock the car back and forth

Hi, it appears the Idle Neutral Control disabled on my 2015 Indonesian Mirage. Is simple ETACS coding will activate it or there are more hardware to be installed first?
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My fiancee G4 is smoother. Hope that doesnt translate to way more longevity vs my 2014 DE lol.

Im not a fan, Ive had my ride go backwards on a mostly flat survace at a drive thru. It went back until I hit the gas. Its only done this twice and my hill assist works on steep hills, but still unnerving. Wish could switch it off like the auto climate control compressor.

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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler

Im not a fan, Ive had my ride go backwards on a mostly flat survace at a drive thru. It went back until I hit the gas. Its only done this twice and my hill assist works on steep hills, but still unnerving. Wish could switch it off like the auto climate control compressor.

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I noticed mine did the same thing 3 times in a row this morning. I hold the brake pedal harder than in other cars cause I don't want that lurch forward like a retard feeling I get sometimes in the work Mirages. I figured mine was in neutral cause when I was stopped it was running pretty quiet and smooth unlike when you first put it in gear and it gets a bit of the shakes. When I let off the brake it rolled back a little til I hit the gas. I didn't have the ac on but had headlight and fogs on. I don't know how far it would have rolled but wonder what the parameters are for the hillstart brake assist to kick in.

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Originally Posted by Fummins

but wonder what the parameters are for the hillstart brake assist to kick in.

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Mitsubishi Innovation: HSA (Hill Start Assist)

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Originally Posted by Mitsubishi | Innovation

HSA (Hill Start Assist)

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This system prevents vehicles rolling backwards and makes hill starts easier by holding the braking force during the time when the driver is moving his/her foot from the brake pedal to the accelerator pedal in order to start the vehicle on a steep road.

When the system determines that the vehicle is stopped on a steep road from the information of various sensors and the ECUs, the system will hold the braking force after the driver releases the brake pedal until the driver depress the accelerator pedal (for a maximum of two seconds). The system will reduce the braking force in accordance with the operation of the accelerator by the driver and the engine torque that is generated.

• HSA also functions when the vehicle is reversing up a steep road.

https://mirageforum.com/forum/attach...9&d=1484475405

https://mirageforum.com/forum/attach...0&d=1484475425

• Depending on the road surface conditions, the vehicle may roll backwards.

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At least that's what Mitsubishi says about it.

Just discovered this thread. I didn't even realize this was a feature, I thought it was just another quirk. I kind of like the little 'jerk' motion upon startup. Might not be cool or sporty but certainly adds personality. At longer lights I don't notice it as much because I'll turn the engine right off, as long as I don't need to be signalling. At shorter lights though there is a noticeable jump when first accelerating.

I'm not a big fan of it due to the conditions that have to met before it will function. This is why I manually put mine in neutral at almost every stop, that way I know it's in neutral for sure. Otherwise you're just sitting there with the belt slipping while you are stopped.

Are you sure that's how they work? I can't imagine the belt actually slips while stopped. I can't fact check atm though.

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Originally Posted by Fummins

Are you sure that's how they work? I can't imagine the belt actually slips while stopped. I can't fact check atm though.

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My understanding of CVT's unless it has a electronic disconnect like the Mirage when you are sitting stopped in gear if the belt is engaged it's slipping on the outer edge of the drive pulley. If you let off the brake and the car moves forward with no throttle then the belt has to be slipping while you are stopped because the drive belt is engaged.