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    Mirage differential possibilities

    So I'm here sitting at home thinking about transmission upgrades and I think "lsd". Then I remember that drugs are bad for me so I think about LSDs. So I start looking into the transmission codes and find that we run a F5MBD 5-speed manual transmission. I start changing the last character to see what turns up (taking cues from my previous DSM and Lancer/Cedia/Mirage experience) and find out that the 2011+ Lancer FWDs run a F5MBB 5-speed manual transmission. Also found the F5MBE from the RVR.

    I tried looking further and found nothing in the way of differential part numbers. So I guess tomorrow or Thursday I'll just have to drop in at Mitsubishi and ask a couple of questions. Or a whole slew of them. Let's see what turns up.

    I'm hoping on a similar or same differential part number. maybe clutch part numbers as well but now we're really dreaming. But I'll let you guys know what happens.



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    This would be interesting potentially on both the performance as well as the economy sides.

    Because if you discover swappable transmission internals from more powerful vehicles, that means the economy nerds (me, me, me) might have additional options for taller gearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
    This would be interesting potentially on both the performance as well as the economy sides.

    Because if you discover swappable transmission internals from more powerful vehicles, that means the economy nerds (me, me, me) might have additional options for taller gearing.
    I was thinking the same thing. Also I considered that for the performance end, a Mirage converted to MAP to run boost could take advantage of the taller gearing. When tied in with the lightweight build and more power, the car could become considerably quicker and still maintain amazing acceleration inherent of a high power/weight ratio. Also, the gears would be a lot stronger by design. But let's start with the differential and go from there first.

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    Sounds very interesting. Let us know what you find out. I wouldn't be surprised if there was parts sharing. It would help keep the price of the Mirage down.
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    and from time to time with a little bit more power, and taller gearing you can get better mpg's

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    So it looks like a fail. The assembly diagram alone shows how different the systems are. The Mirage is a 6-component differential and the Lancer is a much larger 8 component, including an extension housing and a gear to run the speedometer. Moreover, our gear set looks far more compact than the Lancer gear set. Apparently there's no real difference between the lower end Lancer and the 2.4L GTS manual transmission and the RVR is even beefier.

    Further to that, the Lancer differential has a 16-bolt pattern to bolt up to the final drive gear, whereas ours is a 6-bolt pattern.

    Needless to say, this is a dead end. I can still scan and put up copies of the parts list and diagram if people want. You'll just have to wait till the weekend.

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    Bummer.

    Quote Originally Posted by grsupercity View Post
    and from time to time with a little bit more power, and taller gearing you can get better mpg's
    True.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RalliArt_Mirage View Post
    So it looks like a fail. The assembly diagram alone shows how different the systems are. The Mirage is a 6-component differential and the Lancer is a much larger 8 component, including an extension housing and a gear to run the speedometer. Moreover, our gear set looks far more compact than the Lancer gear set. Apparently there's no real difference between the lower end Lancer and the 2.4L GTS manual transmission and the RVR is even beefier.

    Further to that, the Lancer differential has a 16-bolt pattern to bolt up to the final drive gear, whereas ours is a 6-bolt pattern.

    Needless to say, this is a dead end. I can still scan and put up copies of the parts list and diagram if people want. You'll just have to wait till the weekend.
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkfly600 View Post
    It appears that the smart 1.0l turbo and mirage 1.0 and 1.2 share the same engine block meaning that the turbo should be bolt on

    If any body has more info on this please input it .

    I am still looking up on the net will come back with more info as I get them

    Interesting stuff man. We can try looking at the transmission of the smart 1.0 if it's compatible

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    Hey MirageAsti, where did you get the quote about the Smart and the Mirage block being the same? I could I get the link please?

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    Can't believe I haven't seen this thread.

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