Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 21 to 30 of 30

Thread: DIY: Removing the rear seats (turn your Mirage into a mini cargo van)

  1. #21
    Administrator MetroMPG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    1000 Islands, Ontario
    Country
    Canada
    Posts
    6,607
    Thanks
    2,146
    Thanked 1,832 Times in 1,121 Posts
    I'd think you'd have to find JUST the right person to be able to re-sell a cargo-ized Mirage down the road.

    I'd try to hang on to the seats, etc, so you can put it back together. You can advertise how clean they are.


        __________________________________________

        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2014 Mirage base ES 1.2 manual: 54.0 mpg (US) ... 23.0 km/L ... 4.4 L/100 km ... 64.9 mpg (Imp)


  2. #22
    Senior Member MightyMirageMpg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Location
    wi
    Country
    United States
    Posts
    692
    Thanks
    386
    Thanked 265 Times in 168 Posts
    Little FYI

    If you take the seats out you can hear the fuel pump whine and i found it really unbearable. Also road noise and any pebble rolling around on the tin floor is amplified.

  3. #23
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    Vancouver, BC
    Country
    Canada
    Posts
    328
    Garage empty: add car
    Thanks
    90
    Thanked 54 Times in 31 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by bzacon View Post
    Awesome info guys, Definitely thinking about doing this, just not sure where to store the seats or if they're even worth keeping. I wonder how a cargo van conversion would affect resale value of the car down the road...
    Also, anyone want to bounce ideas for a cargo cage? I carry a lot of tools in my mirage and don't want them killing me in the back of the head if I were to get in an accident. This car has serious potential as a miniature service van.
    definitely keep them. someone out there will want to buy them. If you lived in my town I would even consider making an offer on them. My Rottweiler has not been kind to my rear seats
    2014 White SE with CVT

  4. #24
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    ab
    Country
    Canada
    Posts
    892
    Garage empty: add car
    Thanks
    355
    Thanked 531 Times in 298 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by bzacon View Post
    Awesome info guys, Definitely thinking about doing this, just not sure where to store the seats or if they're even worth keeping. I wonder how a cargo van conversion would affect resale value of the car down the road...
    Also, anyone want to bounce ideas for a cargo cage? I carry a lot of tools in my mirage and don't want them killing me in the back of the head if I were to get in an accident. This car has serious potential as a miniature service van.
    I might be looking into something to stop stuff from flying around in an accident. Has anyone tried a cargo net or divider in these cars? I wonder how something like this https://www.amazon.com/Walky-Adjusta...PVEVKXA146GEN8 would work. Looks like you wouldn't be able to adjust seat once it's installed. This https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073ZBSGJZ...&pd_rd_w=nHKrj might work better?

  5. #25
    Senior Member MightyMirageMpg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Location
    wi
    Country
    United States
    Posts
    692
    Thanks
    386
    Thanked 265 Times in 168 Posts
    I wouldn't trust anything That's not welded or bolted in an accident. Maybe a well secured (non bungee) cargo net. It SHOULD be on my mod list too, honestly

  6. #26
    Senior Member Cani Lupine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Bristow, VA
    Country
    United States
    Posts
    588
    Thanks
    20
    Thanked 187 Times in 105 Posts
    So I ended up pulling out my seat backs, and they weigh about 34 pounds (larger one 23, smaller one 11). Not sure how much the bottom weighs yet, left that one in.

        __________________________________________

        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2014 Mirage DE 1.2 manual: 49.2 mpg (US) ... 20.9 km/L ... 4.8 L/100 km ... 59.1 mpg (Imp)


  7. The Following User Says Thank You to Cani Lupine For This Useful Post:

    Daox (06-04-2018)

  8. #27
    Still Plays With Cars Loren's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Location
    Florida
    Country
    United States
    Posts
    122
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 84 Times in 47 Posts
    I never use my back seats. Ever. And for competition, the class I'm in does allow removal of the rear seats. I'd love to do it and save about 50 pounds. But, I don't want my car to sound like a "race car". I don't even like driving around with the rear cargo cover out because it adds so much road noise!

    So, how much weight am I going to add back in by making the rear cargo area flat/usable/attractive, and sound deadening? I'd guess at least 20 pounds. Which brings the weight savings down to maybe 30 pounds. Still worth doing, I guess. 1.5% of the weight of the car is the same as 1.5% more horsepower. Hard to pass that up, especially when it's free or near free.

    I'll have to give this some more thought.

    Of course, the other problem is that I really don't have a good place to store the seats if I remove them. I guess I could wrap them in plastic and stuff them up in the attic...
    Simplify and add lightness.

  9. #28
    Administrator MetroMPG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    1000 Islands, Ontario
    Country
    Canada
    Posts
    6,607
    Thanks
    2,146
    Thanked 1,832 Times in 1,121 Posts
    Know what? I recently gutted my 2000 Metro (down to the sheetmetal) behind the front seat. I did this even after reading more than a few accounts of how unbearably loud it makes the inside of the car (call me stubborn).

    I also did it for performance reasons! (MPG performance ... every ounce counts!)

    1) They were right. It was annoyingly loud.

    2) What surprised me is: I got used to it.

    Either that or my hearing has been irreperably damaged, so I no longer notice.

    The upside? Riding in any other car -- eg. my friend's 10 year-old Kia Rio -- now feels like pure luxury!

    I think I would revert to stock if not for the facts that:

    1) I rarely drive on gravel roads. (That would be super noisy);

    2) I rarely drive on the freeway, so don't often go over 55 mph (meaning wind noise isn't horrid).

        __________________________________________

        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2014 Mirage base ES 1.2 manual: 54.0 mpg (US) ... 23.0 km/L ... 4.4 L/100 km ... 64.9 mpg (Imp)


  10. The Following User Says Thank You to MetroMPG For This Useful Post:

    Loren (06-04-2018)

  11. #29
    Still Plays With Cars Loren's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Location
    Florida
    Country
    United States
    Posts
    122
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 84 Times in 47 Posts
    We gutted the FASTiva behind the rear seats and put a crazy stiff suspension on it. It wasn't "unbearable", but it was louder than I'd want to drive around every day. Really, I guess I could live with it. But, my wife wouldn't ride in it!
    Simplify and add lightness.

  12. #30
    Administrator MetroMPG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    1000 Islands, Ontario
    Country
    Canada
    Posts
    6,607
    Thanks
    2,146
    Thanked 1,832 Times in 1,121 Posts
    I solved that problem by removing the passenger seat, too.


        __________________________________________

        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2014 Mirage base ES 1.2 manual: 54.0 mpg (US) ... 23.0 km/L ... 4.4 L/100 km ... 64.9 mpg (Imp)


Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •