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    Help with rims!

    Okay, so I'm going to be upgrading my rims on my 2015 Mirage and I can't figure out what rim size/offset that I need to make them fit without rubbing on the stock suspension. Please help, thank you!



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    I went with these... 15x6.5" for a wide range of tire size options... 38-42 offset. These were 38. Here is what I ended up going with. They don't poke, but perfectly line up with the fenders. I did need hub-centric rings and they were $20 for a set. I also went with black lugs, which were also $20. The car handled 400% better with just the wheels, tires, then another 300-400% better with the rear sway bar installed.

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    What offset did you do?

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    I found that this website is great for telling you exactly what will fit. The original equipment is 165/65/14, 4.5 inch width and 44 offset.

    http://www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotoriousJT View Post
    What offset did you do?
    "38-42 offset. These were 38"

    In most wheels you will find the offset is static with the wheel size...

    Any shop will be able to tell you what will fit. Their distributor will also know as will most online sellers. With a wider wheel the offset you need changes from stock. 38 made the wheels and tires perfectly line up with the wheel wells for me. I would google offset just to give you a general idea about how it works. I spent probably 10 hours online learning (refreshing) about wheel dimensions before I made a purchase and even then I asked about 5 pro's to make sure I was right I even emailed 10 local shops about recommended max size that wouldn't rub, requesting proposals/quotes from each.

    Yes stock is 14x4.5" 4x100 bolt pattern 165/65 14 tires. The problem is that any good tire requires between 6-7.5" width wheels to fit properly. Even the stock alloy wheels are only 5" wide... I was actually looking for steelies, but I found that alloys were cheaper! Now with the 15x6.5" wheels I have I can fit 165/175/185/195/205, 40/45/50/55/60 tires sizes. Much improvement over the two crappy options that fit the stock wheels (that were expensive too).
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    Quote Originally Posted by HitShane View Post
    "38-42 offset. These were 38"

    In most wheels you will find the offset is static with the wheel size...

    Any shop will be able to tell you what will fit. Their distributor will also know as will most online sellers. With a wider wheel the offset you need changes from stock. 38 made the wheels and tires perfectly line up with the wheel wells for me. I would google offset just to give you a general idea about how it works. I spent probably 10 hours online learning (refreshing) about wheel dimensions before I made a purchase and even then I asked about 5 pro's to make sure I was right I even emailed 10 local shops about recommended max size that wouldn't rub, requesting proposals/quotes from each.

    Yes stock is 14x4.5" 4x100 bolt pattern 165/65 14 tires. The problem is that any good tire requires between 6-7.5" width wheels to fit properly. Even the stock alloy wheels are only 5" wide... I was actually looking for steelies, but I found that alloys were cheaper! Now with the 15x6.5" wheels I have I can fit 165/175/185/195/205, 40/45/50/55/60 tires sizes. Much improvement over the two crappy options that fit the stock wheels (that were expensive too).

    That is so true. The stock tires are way too expensive for what are essentially glorified donuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnarles2 View Post
    That is so true. The stock tires are way too expensive for what are essentially glorified donuts.
    I had the car for one week and 3 times people pointed at me and said he is driving on donuts (I had removed the wheel covers). That and the fact that anything under 42+ PSI they felt like they were going to roll off the rims made me upgrade real fast Then while driving in the rain and taking a slow left turn it went sideways. I was able to easily recover from it from experience and probably the trac/stabil control, but That was the last straw for me. After a week of staying up all night researching the best options (for under $1k) I ended up with what I have now. The difference is night and day in both handling (especially) and looks.

    195's fit, but I had a few members on this forum tell me they will rub during hard maneuvers, while loaded down, or dips/speed bumps. I really wanted the 195's, but after every shop told me to go with 185's, I finally caved. But, with the wheels I have now, I can always pick a different tire size in the future!

    The second biggest reason besides performance for getting the larger Wheels 15x6.5, was that I wanted to be able to easily get a replacement tire. I didn't want to get a flat out of town and not be able to go to any shop and get something that fits... Those Dunlops are hard to come by and expensive!

    Now I keep the full size Stock wheel/tire in my hatch aired up, in place of the donut! If I ever get a flat I don't have to worry about limited distance with a space saver donut temp tire! Just make sure to keep the stock lugs with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnarles2 View Post
    That is so true. The stock tires are way too expensive for what are essentially glorified donuts.
    H-rated 185/60R14 RT-43 are spec'ed for 5-6.5 rims, but work o'k on OEM 4.6" steelies. Just need to pump them up to 48/42psi to keep from squirming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclopathic View Post
    H-rated 185/60R14 RT-43 are spec'ed for 5-6.5 rims, but work o'k on OEM 4.6" steelies. Just need to pump them up to 48/42psi to keep from squirming.
    So, when I'm driving cross country and get a flat in the middle of no where, where will I get that exact tire from? Plus that is a all terrain tire. Those are ok at everything and not good at anything. Always buy summer tires and winter tires. Once you put on some summer tires, you will never go back to All season tires again. Toyo Proxes and Yokohama S Drives are some of the best cheap performance tires you can get and are very popular. High reviews and in stock everywhere.

    If I still lived in Chicago, I would rock my wheels/tires in the summer and the stock wheels with the winter tires in the winter. Plus you wouldn't need to worry about the salt messing up your stock wheels

    P.S. my Toyo Proxes T1R tires are V rated and cost me the same as the Dunlop Enasave stockers. The S Drives are only $80 each...


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