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    I'm bumping this thread.

    Do we still have people interested in a more affordable sway bar solution? If so, please post here. Also let me know how much you would be willing to pay so I have a price target in mind when talking with companies.


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    I have a question. If the existing sway bar design has failed at the welds where the bolt plate meets the round bar, why not eliminate the plate, smash the bar flat and punch mounting holes? Is this feasible or has it been done?

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    It would weaken the bar too much and would likely eventually fracture between the round to flat transition and first bolt hole. You need vertical height for bending strength in that direction. If you flatten it out, it gets weak.

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    Have you considered making and selling adjustable mounts to just adapt a regular universal bar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daox View Post
    It would weaken the bar too much and would likely eventually fracture between the round to flat transition and first bolt hole. You need vertical height for bending strength in that direction. If you flatten it out, it gets weak.
    Eibach has used this approach for the Lancer Evo:


    And here's an example sway bar for a Jeep CJ whose flattened portion is oriented as I was thinking for our Mirage:



    There are other similar designs out there in use. This is only an example of what I had in mind.

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    I'm interested although my 2017 has minimal sway compared to my 2014 which swayed like a drunken clown. I'd be willing to pay $100 US + a bit fr shipping.

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    It appears the front sway bar for our very own favorite little car also uses this design.

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    Almost all bars are coined on the ends

    DOAX is correct on what he said because the bar is solidly mounted instead of free floating it will stress differently.

    The red bars you posted do what he said (squished to be bigger in the loaded direction) (except the lower bar which idk wtf going on there)

    The black bar with the u bolt mounts is not solid mounted and the ends are free to move around so your not twisting the metal at the mount

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    Yeah, it can be done the opposite way, its just not as strong of a design. That design will be prone to the cracking issues I mentioned. However, if its sufficiently over-designed, it will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMirageMpg View Post
    Have you considered making and selling adjustable mounts to just adapt a regular universal bar?
    Woops, missed this.

    Yes, I have considered it. However, every kit I've seen costs too much money to justify. The one you have a picture of is intriguing, but it still needs to be welded up. That is a significant cost for those who don't have access to their own welder. I think a limited production run of a good designed bar would be more cost effective, and it can also be totally tailored to the Mirage vs trying to make something work with existing components.


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