In case anyone is wondering, they fit on stock springs and shocks. Brother had these on his Civic and since he's on a trip, I decided to test fit them. This is not my kind of taste but hey, doesn't hurt to see. The car is sitting and not on the jack. I believe the one the front images, the springs were not 'sitting' or compressed but you get the idea once it sits. I don't think I will ever get rims like these but at least I know what I can work with from now on
the rim
the rear
Front