Is the CVT really more efficient than the manual transmission?

[MightyMirageMpg]

That's near 60mpg right? That's really good. I have to try pretty hard in my 5 speed for that. Couldn't possibly do it daily!

[IchabodCrane]

That's near 60mpg right? That's really good. I have to try pretty hard in my 5 speed for that. Couldn't possibly do it daily

4.7L/100km = 50.05mpg US
or 60.1mpg Imp.(Can.)

[MightyMirageMpg]

4.7L/100km = 50.05mpg US
or 60.1mpg Imp.(Can.)

I see - that's not so impressive but not bad either. Definitely on par with most stick cars i think.

Is 60mph it's pinnacle? I think 37ish is for the 5 speed.

[Eggman]

Dropping to 60mph allows for a more relaxed pace over all.

I agree. More relaxed for the driver, the drivetrain, for fuel consumption, for traffic, etc.

[IchabodCrane]

Side effect of the driveability improvements on the '17.
I tend to drive it harder than I did my '14 and of course this hurts my economy.

[Madison320]

I have a couple questions. Which lasts longer, the CVT or the manual? Also I'm wondering if the CVT makes your engine last longer since it's running at a fairly constant speed.

[Eggman]

Those are very interesting questions. Almost deserves their own thread.

I don't think we have enough to give an accurate answer here yet.

[Johnny Mullet]

We don't know which transmission last longer because nobody here has toasted one yet

[Top_Fuel]

Which lasts longer, the CVT or the manual?

Well...I can't answer that. But I can tell you which one costs less at the parts counter.

[Carfreak09]

I found an interesting article on the history of the CVT. I had no idea it was developed by the Dutch and first appeared in the DAF in the late 50s, which was later bought by Volvo. Surprising tidbit...the first CVT was completely open to the elements (no transmission case and no lubricating oils) and was driven by a rubber belt. Maintenance would be pretty simplistic but I doubt the belts could last long being open to road debris and weather. This original design is still used today, albeit enclosed and greatly improved on as the Audi Multitronic. And here I thought Subaru was the first to use a CVT back in the early 90s on the Justy, but apparently that was only a first for a US marketed car.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variomatic