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Thread: 6th Gen Mirage: Tuner/Power Programmer/ECU/Piggyback. Where are we now?

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    A 36-1 ring is 36 teeth 1 removed. Or 1 tooth every 10 degrees of rotation with the missing tooth denoting 1@tdc

    Count the teeth on the picture you posted off the wheel. Assuming the missing section (a) has a tooth, you already have exactly what he's suggesting you buy.

    But Its not wise too go off a picture


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    I count 33 teeth, 34 if you count the tooth i assume is hiding behind the "#1" on the diagram. i drew straight line bisecting the diagram to try and show where i believe that tooth is

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    Heres a pic of a 36-1 trigger wheel (35 net teeth)

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    Heres a pic of a 36-2 trigger wheel (34 net teeth)

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    I agree, going off this pic is probably not the best idea. Cannot find a live pic of the trigger wheel itself. And as far as this 36-2-1 crank trigger wheel the Haltech said this trigger was, ive yet to see any pics/diagrams of a 36-2-1 trigger wheel.
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    Here is the reply from DIYAutoTune:
    "You would not need to actually take the crank out - the trigger wheel can be put on the external pulley instead. A 36-1 crank wheel would normally be paired with a one tooth cam wheel, but if the cam timing doesn't change you could use it with the existing cam wheel."

    "Putting together a custom decoder is our term for everything that is needed to run the ECU on the stock crank and cam triggers. If the crank trigger didn't have that second gap near the location marked "stamp", it could have worked. As it is, it's ALMOST, but not quite, like the crank wheel on some Toyotas."

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    You are correct. To make matters worse i misscounted like 4 times
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    Here is the reply from DIYAutoTune:
    "You can put a crank trigger on anything that spins at crank speed; many OEM installs have it attached in the middle of the crankshaft. But it will work just as well on the crank pulley, outside the block. I did not mean to imply this wheel would need to go in the same location as the factory trigger wheel."

    https://www.diyautotune.com/support/...crank-trigger/

    "the bracket is going to depend on what mounting points are available on the engine. We haven't made an effort to design a universal bracket as making something that fits all engines seems rather unlikely. The sensor goes perpendicular to the crank, pointed at the edge of the trigger wheel."

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    Wanted to bump this thread to see if there were any updates.

    Also, it just dawned on me that this car is E20 capable, not sure if everyone is aware of that.

    I have personally run a tank of what was approximately E40. After a few gallons it felt like it pulled harder at mid rpms. I was able to maintain commanded air/fuel ratio. Injector duty cycle, I believe, peaked at 60% wide open at redline. I imagine it could handle more ethanol. Short term and long term fuel trims went to plus 15 but but both seemed to stop there for some reason which made me nervous and I ended the experiment.

    In other words I believe there is more power in this engine simply with better timing and knock avoidance.

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    Nice. How are you monitoring your injector timing and fuel trims?

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2015 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 49.6 mpg (US) ... 21.1 km/L ... 4.7 L/100 km ... 59.5 mpg (Imp)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    Nice. How are you monitoring your injector timing and fuel trims?
    Using the TorquePro app on an Android phone and one of those cheap ELM bluetooth devices that plugs into the OBD2 port. There is a Mitsubishi specific plugin for the TorquePro App (that I believe you must purchase) that has a few additional monitoring parameters that the TorquePro app does not come with. Can't remember off hand if injector duty cycle comes with the Torque app or the plugin. Fairly certain both long and short fuel trims are provided by the Torque app itself.

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    If I understand correctly fuel trim is a standard OBD-II parameter - not sure about injector duty cycle. I'll have to look that up.

    I'm interested in learning how to get that manufacturer specific info.

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2015 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 49.6 mpg (US) ... 21.1 km/L ... 4.7 L/100 km ... 59.5 mpg (Imp)


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    Couldnt hurt to have more information



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