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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Fuel View Post
    This issue can only be corrected with a new axle (a $1,000+ repair at the dealer).
    Just to clarify, Top_Fuel: if the axle was out of spec, it's still a warrantied repair, isn't it? Even for subsequent owners?


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    You can find a new es 17 still for under 10k if you search dealers. Possibly near you or with in 300mi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Fuel View Post
    A few random comments...

    1. Ditto what these guys are saying about price. There were huge rebates back in early 2016 and it wasn't unusual to pick up a new leftover Mirage ES CVT for around $11K. Depreciation on these cars is pretty bad. At $9,000...that better be one of the nicest used Mirages in the country.

    2. Spend a couple of bucks on a Carfax or AutoCheck report. Even if those reports come back clean, Google the VIN number. You might be surprised what you find...especially if the car has any kind of salvage or auction history.

    3. A well-maintained Mirage with 17,000 miles should still have all 4 of its original tires. If this car does not have 4 Dunlop Enasave tires...or 2 of the tires have been replaced for some reason...it's time to start asking questions. A small percentage of these cars have rear axle alignment problems that can wear out a set of tires in 10-20K miles. This issue can only be corrected with a new axle (a $1,000+ repair at the dealer). A low-mileage Mirage with 2 or 4 new tires could be an indicator of potentially expensive alignment issues.


    Here's a private-owner 2015 Mirage similar to the one you are looking at. This guy has had this for sale for almost a year. I suspect he owes too much on it and can't take any less.

    2015 Mirage ES CVT 10K miles $9750



    Here's a really nice Yugo for sale if you're interested...

    1988 Yugo GVS, 30K miles, original tires, new timing belt/water pump, $3900
    I'll pass on the Yugo. Although that photo brought back some good memories. I had a White '86 version. Then I had Blue in an '88.

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    I did my first test drive today. Used car dealer selling 2015 ES with 17600 miles for $9000.

    I was pleasantly surprised with the ride. Very smooth and not as noisy as I expected. Took it on a state highway so I got it up to at least 60mph, maybe more. No funny noises or shake, rattle, and roll sounds. The noise level seemed lower than in my wife's 2004 Hyundai Elantra with 130k miles. Interesting "feel" as the CVT did it's thing as opposed to a traditional automatic transmission. Didn't do much high speed turning, but I loved the short turning radius at slow speeds. Pulling out of the lot I had to make a tight turn to avoid a backup and go turn. I loved that part. The little car just zipped out of the lot and off we went. The acceleration was better than I expected. I wasn't going up hills, but I had plenty of power to get going and even pass other cars.

    I am 6' tall and 250lbs. Obviously a small cabin, but I didn't feel cramped. If I were in the back seat I'd likely have a less favorable observation. I sat back there and it was tight. Front and back the headroom was good.

    An earlier post mentioned checking tires. This car did NOT have Dunlop tires. It had what appeared to be new "Starfire" radials the 175/65 15 size. The salesman spent time trying to convince me that a 15" would be better for the car than a 14" tire. I am not a tire expert so I have no clue if that's true. What I do know is that the tires looked nice but weren't Dunlop. The car also, accordingly to the salesman had a new battery, although I couldn't tell what brand.

    As to price they came down $250. to $8750. I felt they would go more if I played the game. I didn't but courteously thanked him for his time, told him I was interested, but just not ready today to buy the car. His next question was "What price would get you to buy this car today?' I wanted to say $7500 which I was very doubtful his boss would accept. But if he did I might have bought it. Bottom line was I never did answer the question, but we agreed to talk in a few days.

    I am inclined at this point to keep shopping. As we enter that period from Thanksgiving to New Years it seems to me some good deals on a new Mirage (probably a 2017) will appear and that might make more sense.

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    Thanks for reporting back. Always interesting to hear about other people's Mirage shopping experiences.


    Quote Originally Posted by MirageMan2017 View Post
    This car did NOT have Dunlop tires. It had what appeared to be new "Starfire" radials the 175/65 15 size.
    Well...you have to wonder why a 2 year old car with 17,000 miles is running around on a new set of tires. And they are an off-brand that is technically the wrong size. Not saying that there is a fire here...but does anyone else smell smoke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
    Just to clarify, Top_Fuel: if the axle was out of spec, it's still a warrantied repair, isn't it? Even for subsequent owners?
    Yeah...absolutely. But this could be an example of a complicated situation. If a dealer wanted to play hardball, they could cry foul on the non-stock sized tires and deny a warranty claim until the owner brings the car in with 165-65-14s. I'm not saying it will happen...just that it could happen.

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    You owe it to yourself to drive a 17+ from what I've heard and read they are a better car to drive. I have 2 17s but have never driven a 14/15.

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    Got a quote later in the day on a 2017

    Got a callback from a sales rep at a Mitsubishi dealer in NJ that she has a 2017 ES model new. She quoted a price of $10,300. Sounds like a decent deal. Am going to test drive in the next couple of days.



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