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    Quote Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
    Why don't they use the existing clutch switch?
    It is my understanding that one is for engine start and the other for cruise cancel.

    Cruise cancel should trigger as soon as the clutch is initially depressed.

    Engine start requires the clutch to be fully disengaged (that is, at bottom of travel) to ensure the car does not lurch upon engine start.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    It is my understanding that one is for engine start and the other for cruise cancel.

    Cruise cancel should trigger as soon as the clutch is initially depressed.

    Engine start requires the clutch to be fully disengaged (that is, at bottom of travel) to ensure the car does not lurch upon engine start.
    You mean the engine start of AS&G? I have to put my transmission in neutral, and release the clutch before the engine stops. If I try to put the transmission back in 1, without pressing (?) the clutch, the car warns that that is not allowed. So the engine can start as soon as the clutch is touched.

    If a car doesn't have AS&G , and doesn't have cruise control either, why does it need a clutch switch anyway?

    /edit: Nevermind. I have just realized that the start button behaves differently when you have pressed the clutch or not. I guess that is what Eggman is referring to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Wolf View Post
    You mean the engine start of AS&G?
    Right - that's a good point.

    I wasn't referring to auto stop & go. This thread discusses adding a cruise control unit to a Mirage, not auto stop & go. Although that would be pretty cool to make work here on these shores, it's not the focus of this thread and it's not part of my post in this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Space Wolf View Post
    If a car doesn't have AS&G , and doesn't have cruise control either, why does it need a clutch switch anyway?
    Well, Mirages sold in our market don't have both switches unless it has cruise control.

    Quote Originally Posted by Space Wolf View Post
    /edit: Nevermind. I have just realized that the start button behaves differently when you have pressed the clutch or not.
    Keep in mind not all of these cars have keyless pushbutton start.

    If you have a Mitsubishi Mirage/Space Star with auto stop & go it would be very helpful and informative if you would share your insights into it's operation. All the better if you could provide pictures & documentation in a thread of it's own. Do let us know if you find a manual transmission gear- or neutral-sensing switch(es) on your Mirage.

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    I got the pedal switches installed this weekend. Install was pretty easy for the most part. The only slight pain is installing the clutch switch since you need to push the clutch pedal in, insert the switch into the bracket, and get the nut on all at the same time... with only two hands.

    So, lets see some pics!

    First, if you have a manual transmission, you need to grab a nut. This is to hold the clutch switch in place. The nut must be an M10x1.5 thread. I grabbed one out of my nuts and bolts bucket.

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    Next up, put your driver's seat back and stick your head under the dash to see this. For whatever reason (I think sound deadening mainly as there is some material on the panel back side), Mitsubishi decided we needed this plate covering up everything in an area you would never ever look. Take a philips and unscrew the three plastic fasteners. After the threaded part is unscrewed about 1/2", you can yank them out and the panel will come out.

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    Now, this is what you'll see when you look at your pedal and the switches. My car is a manual, so the clutch pedal is on the left, and the brake pedal is on the right. You can see there is an empty hole where we will be installing the clutch switch, and the brake switch we will actually be replacing with a different one.

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    For those interested, this is the difference between the two brake switches. The new one has the blue end. There are 2 additional contacts in the new switch we will be installing. I find it hard to believe Mitsu saved much money here... but whatever.

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    So, lets replace that brake switch. Before yanking it out, lets take a look at how the switch sets though so you can see how to install the new switch. Observe the clearance between the pedal and the switch (white little bit in the pic). You'll want to install the new switch with generally the same clearance.

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    Now, disconnect the electrical connector. Then, give the brake switch a quarter turn counter
    clockwise. It will pop right out. Grab your new switch, and do the exact opposite. Make sure its in roughly the same position to the pedal as the other switch, or get it to look similar to this picture. Make sure to plug the connector back in too.

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    If you have a CVT / automatic, you are now done! Congrats, you are awesome! You can put that bottom panel back on... or not. I don't personally see much need, but its your car so do what you want.

    If you have a manual trans, congrats cause your car is cooler! But, you have more work to do yet.

    You may have noticed an extra connector taped up above the brake switch connector.

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    You need to cut the tape, or remove the tape to get that connector free. That is going to plug into your clutch switch.

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    Now for the fun part, grab the clutch switch and your M10 nut. Push in the clutch pedal enough to give you clearance, and put the clutch switch in the hole, and spin the nut on. The switch does have a little plastic pin/nub that sticks out to hold it in place as you tighten the nut. No need to He-man it on, but get it snug. I did snap that pin off of mine due to having a messed up nut that wouldn't thread on fully. I superglued it back on. A new nut did the trick and spun on perfectly.

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    Alright, last step again. Plug the wire harness connector into the switch. Congrats manual trans guys, you are now done too!

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    I just love how the harnesses are just chilling and ready to use for things not currently in use (cruise pedal switches, heated seats, heated mirrors, signals for mirrors, fender repeater, etc).

    Nice work Daox.
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    Thanks guys. It is coming along quite nicely I think. Should be able to button it up real soon!
    Custom Mirage products: Cruise control kit, Glove box light, MAF sensor housing, Rear sway bar, Upper grill block

    Current project: DIY Nitrous oxide setup for ~$100

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    Those are some great pictures. Wish I had them when I installed mine. It isn't a hard job, but I did mine entirely by feel and pictures let you know what you're holding on to!

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    Alright, lets keep going with things! I now have the 3d printed switch assembly installed on the Mirage. Installation was really quite easy. I'll share it with you below.

    First, we need to remove the top steering wheel cover. To do this, pry up on each side. Its nice to do this with plastic tools vs metal so it doesn't gouge the cover as easily. I just got a set like this for Christmas, so I put them to good use. The service manual shows where to pull the covers apart.

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    Next, remove the screw from the lower cover. I believe its a philips head screw.

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    Now, the lower cover is still held on the steering column by a plastic clip right where you just removed the bolt. Its pretty secure. You'll want to pry it apart a little bit before yanking it off.

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    With the steering column covers removed, you should be able to get your hand behind the dash and pop out one of the blank covers. Alternatively, you can use one of your plastic trim panel tools to pop it out as well.

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    Now, we get to install the goodies. Get your cruise switch panel, and stick the wire through the hole and around near the steering column.

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    Go ahead and clip the switch panel in place. It just pushes in.

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    Now, we get to wire it up. Take a look under the steering column and you will see the harness going to the clock spring. There are three electrical connectors close to each other.

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    You will need to unplug the center one.

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    When you look at the wires, you want to connect the cruise panel wiring to the yellow and brown wires. IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW IT GETS PLUGGED IN. Its designed to work either way. I just know I am going to get questions on this, so capslock.

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    With it all plugged in, I recommend securing it somehow. It does fit snugly in the connector, but there are no clips to hold it in place. I used some small zip ties to secure things so that it won't accidentally come unplugged.

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    Now, you can reinstall the lower steering column cover, and then clip on the upper steering column cover to button things back up. Congrats! You are now done with the cruise switch panel install.
    Custom Mirage products: Cruise control kit, Glove box light, MAF sensor housing, Rear sway bar, Upper grill block

    Current project: DIY Nitrous oxide setup for ~$100

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    Wow! Amazingly simple and great work.


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