Mirage 74hp vs Attrage 80hp engine (Mirage sedan engine more powerful?)

[m4v3r1ck]

Ah don't mind at all. true and how about the trans of attrage? any difference?

[MetroMPG]

The PH Mirage G4 brochure shows the same gear & final drive ratios for the manual sedan as the manual hatchback.

[m4v3r1ck]

Ah nice

[Daox]

I would bet with it being a little heavier that they "gear" (program) the CVT a little lower to regain some pep.

[CheezyWedges]

And both engines were un-modified?

im not sure bro.. maybe have to check further. this is what the technician in service centre told me(which is he self proclaimed quite good in this car). i can't confirm that.

[CheezyWedges]

i think both engines code are 3A92 ?

only the japanese version can get mirage 1.0cc.

[Mikhail]

I checked European web-site (German) and our North American (US). And here is info of Mirage/Space Star for comparison:

Europe (German): Engine 1.2L (1193cc) - Compression ratio 11.0:1 - Fuel Super unleaded (RON 95 min) - Horsepower @6000 RPM (PS) 80
North America (US): Engine 1.2L (1193cc) - Compression ratio 10.5:1 - Regular unleaded, 87 octane min (however, the official web-site doesn't provide)- Horsepower @6000 RPM (BHP) 74.

German specifications
US specifications

1.0 Japanese PS = 0.98632 BHP

[CheezyWedges]

I checked European web-site (German) and our North American (US). And here is info of Mirage/Space Star for comparison:

Europe (German): Engine 1.2L (1193cc) - Compression ratio 11.0:1 - Fuel Super unleaded (RON 95 min) - Horsepower @6000 RPM (PS) 80
North America (US): Engine 1.2L (1193cc) - Compression ratio 10.5:1 - Regular unleaded, 87 octane min (however, the official web-site doesn't provide)- Horsepower @6000 RPM (BHP) 74.

German specifications
US specifications

1.0 Japanese PS = 0.98632 BHP

Hi thanks for the input.

[m4v3r1ck]

A ha so there's the difference, am at 1.0 and it says to have 71 HP

[MetroMPG]

Europe (German): Engine 1.2L (1193cc) - Compression ratio 11.0:1
North America (US): Engine 1.2L (1193cc) - Compression ratio 10.5:1

That's very interesting...

But I wonder if it's correct (we have seen errors on the Mitsu web sites before). The German 3A92 specification lists the same bore, stroke and displacement as the North American 3A92 engine. If that's the case, how could they have different compression ratios? One must be wrong, no?

EDIT: correction! My mistake... I confused cylinder volume with displacement. It's quite possible the German engine could have a different head or head gasket design that would give it higher compression for the same displacement.

Tim (daox) points out that the UK compression ratio for the 3A92 is also 11.0:1.