View Poll Results: Is the type of transmission important to you?

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  • I would ONLY buy a manual shift.

    18 60.00%
  • Offer me an automatic, or I'm out of here!

    5 16.67%
  • If I like the car, the transmission doesn't matter.

    7 23.33%
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Thread: Would you get a Mirage if it only came with an automatic transmission?

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    Manual only for me. I would not consider anything else. Just personal preference, and maybe a latent control-freak issue



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    One interesting thing we're still trying to figure out: the CVT may rev significantly lower than the manual at highway speeds (~100 km/h / ~60 mph), yet most countries' fuel economy ratings still show the manual as having better highway fuel economy (if only by a little). We already know the manual revs approach 3,000 RPM at that speed.

    I'd definitely like to try both transmissions. (But I still bet I'd opt for the manual, even if they got equal fuel economy).

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    I wouldn't be surprised if it depends on what is considered "highway speed." The old EPA test used to get such good numbers because they counted 50 mph as "highway."

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    I would think that the CVT may be able to run at lower rpm at say 100klm/h then the manual. Now if you run into a head wind or have an incline to go up i would expect that the CVT would then sart to lift the rpm to keep it moving at speed. The manual could still stay in top gear for much longer and be able to go through the head wind or the incline.

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    Well, according to the newest UK ratings for the Mirage: http://mirageforum.com/forum/showthr...ace-Star-also). The Mirage 2 (5spd) gets better highway (extra urban) mileage than the Mirage 3 (CVT), but the Mirage 3 (5spd) gets slightly worse mileage... So, it does seem to be a bit of a wash and dependant on other things than just the transmission.
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    Still, you have more control with a manual, so I'd expect it's better when it comes to the upper limits of hypermiling.

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    My GLS CVT mirage is still under evaluation with less than 1K mileage for kick transmission problem. I should have gotten a manual.

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    I have little confidence in CVT technology at the moment, especially for a low cost car.

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    Why are you convinced that the OEM gear oil is not high quality? I would be surprised if it wasn't. Good oil is cheap insurance, and it also effects efficiency which is this car's forte. Have you seen an oil analysis done on them to prove anything is going wrong?
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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2015 Mirage DE 1.2 manual: 47.2 mpg (US) ... 20.1 km/L ... 5.0 L/100 km ... 56.7 mpg (Imp)


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    I'd be pleasantly surprised if the OEM oil was fully synthetic. Given the car's low price.


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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2014 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 63.2 mpg (US) ... 26.9 km/L ... 3.7 L/100 km ... 75.9 mpg (Imp)


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