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    Fummy my boi, the guy that was flexing his steering wheel lock has confirmed that his poverty edition has no transponder key. I guess this is why he gets the metal ignition lock that locks the steering wheel/column and not us.



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    Quote Originally Posted by foama View Post
    The rear spoiler is the horizontal mini awning thing above the rear window, but before the roof.
    I thought we all had a rear spoiler what? what does your car look like? does your owners manual diagrams also not have a rear spoiler?
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    I wish it was possible for me to edit the original table on post 1 so people reading this could immediately get the correct info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foama View Post
    The cheapest European model has no rear spoiler, no luggage compartment lid, no tachometer, and lacks some other mostly meaningless stuff. It does have the bigger (203mm) rear brakes, steering lock, transponder keys, etc.
    The cheapest model seems to be made to get customers for dealers, then they have none at hand and sell the much more expensive (at least +40%) models.
    please share a photo. i was unable to find a photo of one online. Does this mean that all our models have a hole under the rear spoiler meant to house the 3rd brake light in this european no spoiler poverty model? I wonder why my poverty edition has a spoiler. I thought they couldn't remove it because they'd have no place to put the 3rd brake light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohammad View Post
    I wish it was possible for me to edit the original table on post 1 so people reading this could immediately get the correct info.


    Brilliant idea!

    Maybe homework for an admin?




    FYI, List of lamps and bulbs, European models:

    front blinker: 21W (PY21W) = yellow tinted bulb
    rear blinker: 21W (P21W) = transparent bulb
    Headlight: 60/55W (H4)
    Parking bulbs, front in headlamps: 5W (W5W) =glass socket bulbs
    Blinker on the side of front fender: 5W (W5W) =glass socket bulbs
    On the more recent: Blinker in side mirror is LED
    Third brake light, models WITHOUT rear spoiler: 4 x 5W (W5W) =glass socket bulbs
    Third brake light, on cars with rear spoiler (most of them) LED
    Numberplate light 5W (W5W) =glass socket bulbs
    Backup light, rear on passenger side: 21W (P21W)
    rear fog light (driver side) 21W (P21W)
    brake lights/stop lights: 21/5W (P21/5W)
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    1) DRL: 13W (P13W) or
    2) foglight: 35W (H8) these on older models.
    After 2014(?) DRL's became mandatory in all new cars in Europe and in our cars the DRL's were placed where otherwise foglights could have been installed.

    The codes in brackets are the official bulb nomenclature
    In later cars, some lamps had been replaced with LED sort
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    Quote Originally Posted by foama View Post
    Blinker on the side of front fender: 5W (W5W)
    I thought these blinkers were non serviceable?

    you also missed the two interior lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohammad View Post
    please share a photo. i was unable to find a photo of one online. Does this mean that all our models have a hole under the rear spoiler meant to house the 3rd brake light in this european no spoiler poverty model? I wonder why my poverty edition has a spoiler. I thought they couldn't remove it because they'd have no place to put the 3rd brake light.

    Mine has a retrofitted regular rear spoiler from a Taiwan source, so I can't take a picture.

    Have a look here:

    https://mirageforum.com/forum/showth...)-Hatch-Mirage

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohammad View Post
    please share a photo. i was unable to find a photo of one online. Does this mean that all our models have a hole under the rear spoiler meant to house the 3rd brake light in this european no spoiler poverty model? I wonder why my poverty edition has a spoiler. I thought they couldn't remove it because they'd have no place to put the 3rd brake light.
    The cheapest European model has no rear spoiler, no luggage compartment lid, no tachometer, and lacks some other mostly meaningless stuff.
    It does have the bigger (203mm) rear brakes, steering lock, transponder keys, AC, radio, etc.
    The cheapest model seems to be made for getting customers to the dealers. When you get there they have none at hand and tell you how ridiculously bare they are, then sell the much more expensive (starting at least at +40%!) models. I bought one such cheap model and think it has more than enough in it, I mean I don't miss anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohammad View Post
    I thought these blinkers were non serviceable?

    you also missed the two interior lights.
    The side fender blinkers are definitely serviceable. See the FSM.

    Mine has only one interior light near the mirror. The 5W bulb is the usual sort with a contact on each end and can easily be changed, but the specs are not included in the owners manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foama View Post
    The side fender blinkers are definitely serviceable. See the FSM.

    Mine has only one interior light near the mirror. The 5W bulb is the usual sort with a contact on each end and can easily be changed, but the specs are not included in the owners manual.
    Are you talking about the repeater signal lights in the fenders? All the cars that I've seen out here have sealed non servicable fender signal lights. You replace the entire light if they burn out. The only other option would be to attempt to un-glue the thing. I'll post a pic one year. Sounds like there's one more difference across markets. Yay for thread derails!


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