Prices are for one litre, otherwise no comment from me.
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I'm always amused to hear people on this side of the pond complain about the price of gas.
We got it so easy, we just don't see it.
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Wow! At least European prices are for 95 octane.
In the future our energy prices will also include a CO2 surcharge, and sales tax on top of it all. They are talking about €60.- to €120.- per single ton of CO2...
Yes, but our prices are in euros, and not in Canadian dollars.Quote:
Originally Posted by foama
One litre of petrol equals about 2400 grams of CO2. So at €120/1000kg about 29 cents per litre will be added. Plus VAT, I suppose.Quote:
In the future our energy prices will also include a CO2 surcharge, and sales tax on top of it all. They are talking about €60.- to €120.- per single ton of CO2...
95 EU Octane IS 87 US. Same ****.Quote:
Originally Posted by foama
That translates to $2.36/L Canadian for your regular octane, from yesterday's Euro/Canadian dollar currency price. Ouch. Vancouver's $1.60+/L doesn't seem so bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by foama
If you calculate €1,62 per Litre, plus 36 Euro-cent for CO2 surcharge plus additional sales tax, it would be €1.98 per Litre. Times 3.8 = one US gallon, = €7.52 per US gallon, in US $ that would be roughly
$6.70 US per gallon.
You know now why there are so many small economical cars available in Europe?
Gas around $3 a gallon right now in the US means half the price you pay.
I would not want to fill up a 4 x 4 GMC 2500 truck in Germany, one fill up and people would switch their cars.
My favorite take away from all of this is the fact that tax is being charged on tax! It's bad enough that the price of the underlying commodity is so high when the world is awash in oil, it really is, but it's just blatant theft for them to have multiple layers of tax based on the prior level's value after it has tax applied!Quote:
Originally Posted by Space Wolf
We should should take our pitchforks and lanterns and revolt but we're too distracted watching the latest Dancing with the Stars...
No Dr. Phil all the way, and the most dramatic episodes are Thursdays and Fridays. The punk kid with the made up accent to sound tough. Compelling TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wallythacker
It's not just gas but driving 5 hours to work or to work out, or anything. Drive drive all we do is drive. We drive to exercise. It does seem silly when you step back for a moment. I think the thing is Canada and the USA infrastructure is 95% car-based.
Taxes on taxes as well --even your paycheque gets taxed, then you go buy smarties at the corner store with your leftovers ---and you get taxed on your income-taxed income with HST. Then the bank charges you to have your money sit in their bank. Withdraw your retirement savings!? Big tax grab right there of your hard earned money. Then EVERY government of EVERY political stripe wastes YOUR money and tells you what to do. sorry haha the passion
The banks make lots of me, a mortgage even at a low rate and small mortgage compared to 90% of people my age.. it's still a scam, so the cheaper the house the better. No need to show off how much money goes to interest and that is wasteful unless you got money to burn
I like the pitchfork peasant rebellion idea, but maybe that is too far
You mean your bank charges you to keep your money with them?? Time to change banks bruh. I use a credit union.Quote:
Originally Posted by dspace9
Can't help you with taxes. :)
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Originally Posted by Eggman
Sorry for my rant, I will look into credit unions. My bank fees are better than what some get stuck with, but I have to keep my house loan with them, at their rates, and that is the deal.
I find with things like cars and houses, who you deal with in person benefits you more than what bank or cooperative you deal with.
Cost of living raising with salary stagnation across the board.....welcome to 21st century Eutopia. Pitchforks coming soon to a village near you.
This article might interest you Dirk Diggler, I know you are a history buff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler
"The American Dream is Killing Us"
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/t...=pocket-newtab
What is MaxxMotion Diesel?
Fuels in Europe need to comply with standards, and are monitored very closely. Those two sorts of MaxxMotion fuels are their own brand of "premium" fuel. What their definition of premium is, I don't know. They cost a lot more but probably make no noticeable difference in the car. The sort of stuff freaks might buy. Reminds me of those magical magnets for putting next to the air filter for better performance or was it economy or both? You just can't beat the laws of physics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Space Wolf
I just wanted to clarify something. In the gas station photo you posted, regular 87 octane gas is the "super" grade??Quote:
Originally Posted by foama
Maybe that's like the brand name for Maxx's regular unleaded? Like how Shell is Vpower gas. Empty and meaningless marketing words, but catchy so you remember them.
Euro-Super 95 is what every new petrol (gasoline) car in Europe is made for. It is often abbreviated as "Euro Super", and comes in two varieties. E5 is most popular, containing 5% alcohol. E10 is less popular, and contains 10% alcohol. Both E5 and E10 are rated as better than 95RON and 85MON. RON and MON are standardized measuring methods. Lead in fuel is illegal. There is no "regular" kind of gasoline sold any more, only super, that being EuroSuper 95. A few brands do sell gasoline with a higher octane rating than the official standard, but it is very expensive and draws few customers.
The MaxxMotion variants for example, have a higher octane rating (100ROZ) for petrol, and a higher cetane rating for diesel fuel, and also a very distinctly elevated price.
Funny. We have Euro 95, and Super, which is more expensive, and which is 98.
I'm a bit surprised that diesel in Germany is about the same price as petrol. Here in the Netherlands it's significantly cheaper. (€1.47 for diesel vs. €1.78 for euro95)
I am planning a trip to Dublin in April 2020, coming up, and one idea I am tossing is renting a car for a few days, to see the countryside a bit! Thanks foama and Space Wolf for this informationQuote:
Originally Posted by foama
So Euro Super E5 is my regular gas I will then use to fill up my rental in Ireland. All assuming it's a regular gas car like a Mitsubishi Mirage, or Nissan Sentra.. whatever. Good to know!