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    Outlander or Eclipse Cross?

    I know there are likely forums for these vehicles, but I'm asking you guys/gals. Anyone have any experience with either of these? I've test driven both, both have their pros and cons. Curious what anyone's experiences have been with reliability, drivability, etc.

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    I work at a busy auto/truck shop. We see a lot of Outlanders with wheel bearing problems. Replaced all 4 bearings on 2 different Outlanders in one year as an example. Also see a lot of ABS issues with them. No experience with the Cross yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet View Post
    I work at a busy auto/truck shop. We see a lot of Outlanders with wheel bearing problems. Replaced all 4 bearings on 2 different Outlanders in one year as an example. Also see a lot of ABS issues with them. No experience with the Cross yet.
    Thanks, Johnny M. The 2020 Outlander I test drove had a crooked steering wheel and sounded like a left front bearing going bad. Had been a rental, so rode hard and put up wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicPunk View Post
    Thanks, Johnny M. The 2020 Outlander I test drove had a crooked steering wheel and sounded like a left front bearing going bad. Had been a rental, so rode hard and put up wet.
    Unless it's the Outlander with the 3.0L V6 & 6-speed automatic transmission, I would have zero interest in it.

    Otherwise, my focus would be on the Toyota RAV4 & Mazda CX-5 with non-turbo engines and automatic transmissions. I'm not buying an SUV with a CVT while something else still exists. Everyone is free to think otherwise, however.

    The 2.4 L power train found in the older Honda CR-Vs & Elements were quite good. I wouldn't even look at the current one.

    If I could pick any SUV in mint condition, it would be a 2nd generation Honda CR-V AWD manual Sadly those don't really exist any more. I would pick that vehicle over anything offered in today's new market. Heck, that generation still had the folding table feature! I'm really not impressed with the current market.

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    Interestingly, the CX-5 model from 2013-2016 came with the manual transmission! Only for the base model of course but still. It nice to have on the SUV!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Unless it's the Outlander with the 3.0L V6 & 6-speed automatic transmission, I would have zero interest in it.

    Otherwise, my focus would be on the Toyota RAV4 & Mazda CX-5 with non-turbo engines and automatic transmissions. I'm not buying an SUV with a CVT while something else still exists. Everyone is free to think otherwise, however.

    The 2.4 L power train found in the older Honda CR-Vs & Elements were quite good. I wouldn't even look at the current one.

    If I could pick any SUV in mint condition, it would be a 2nd generation Honda CR-V AWD manual Sadly those don't really exist any more. I would pick that vehicle over anything offered in today's new market. Heck, that generation still had the folding table feature! I'm really not impressed with the current market.
    I found out about the folding table when I detailed my friend’s 2002 model! I set it up and put my supplies on it, it was very handy. If anyone gets one of those CRVs however, I advise checking to make sure the airbags have had the recall service done. Not sure why they stopped including the folding table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Princess_Bishi View Post
    I found out about the folding table when I detailed my friend’s 2002 model! I set it up and put my supplies on it, it was very handy. If anyone gets one of those CRVs however, I advise checking to make sure the airbags have had the recall service done. Not sure why they stopped including the folding table.
    I believe 2006 would have been the last year for the removable table. The 1st & 2nd generation Honda CR-Vs had them.

    The first two generations had full size spares located on the rear hatch door, which meant the rear hatch door swung out rather than up. Since the spare was on the outside, some nice usable space was located under the folding table that covered the rear area.

    The 3rd generation & up no longer had a full size spare stored on the rear hatch door, and the rear hatch door popped up like most other vehicles. When that change happened, the tables disappeared.

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    I'd personally skip an Outlander with a CVT. They are good at eating transmissions and also really hard to find replacement parts for that isn't dealer. Eclipse Cross will be the same.

    I agree with Mark... Rav4 or CR-V.
    -Karl B. 2015 Mirage DE CVT Utility Machine (and lots of other cars)

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    So the Mirage is the only reliable Mitsu model currently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicPunk View Post
    So the Mirage is the only reliable Mitsu model currently?
    It's the only one available without a Jatco CVT (manual transmission) so I'd say yes. Plus, the Jatco CVT in these cars is rated for cars with twice the power output so with servicing they'll live a long life.
    -Karl B. 2015 Mirage DE CVT Utility Machine (and lots of other cars)

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