Outlander or Eclipse Cross?

[mohammad]

I never buy new. 2-3 years old is the sweet spot. And I've seen too many companies try to weasel out of warranty responsibility. I'd like to stay with the brand, but if one of their upscale (from Mirage) models isn't reliable, I'm out.

Have you considered outlander PHEV? it seems decent on paper. especially if you are ev rebate eligible.

[AtomicPunk]

Have you considered outlander PHEV? it seems decent on paper. especially if you are ev rebate eligible.

I have. I would like one, but used they are going for 26-35k usd, a bit more than I want to spend right now. The rebates only apply to new, I think.

[mohammad]

I have. I would like one, but used they are going for 26-35k usd, a bit more than I want to spend right now. The rebates only apply to new, I think.

Where i am there is a private used ev incentive program of $1,000 and another $1000 if you give them(scrap) any working gas car that currently has insurance(is road legal).

see: https://www.plugndrive.ca/used-elect...les-incentive/

[inuvik]

I lurk on a Eclipse Cross forum and lots of pain there. I own a 2019 Outlander Sport with the 5 speed manual. It's been flawless for over 3 yrs 50k miles. Granted it's the short version of the Outlander but it's been the best vehicle I've owned in a long long time. I have the 4b11 2.0 engine and it delivers excellent mpg's. My lifetime average since owning the vehicle is just over 30 mpg. I would steer clear of the CVT if I was looking for a used Outlander. I concur with a previous post that if I was going to buy a Outlander I wouldn't buy the new Nissan one in any flavor. Look for a lightly used Outlander GT with the V6 and 6 speed automatic or the Outlander PHEV (the Mitsubishi made model, not the Nissan).

[mohammad]

I lurk on a Eclipse Cross forum and lots of pain there. I own a 2019 Outlander Sport with the 5 speed manual. It's been flawless for over 3 yrs 50k miles. Granted it's the short version of the Outlander but it's been the best vehicle I've owned in a long long time. I have the 4b11 2.0 engine and it delivers excellent mpg's. My lifetime average since owning the vehicle is just over 30 mpg. I would steer clear of the CVT if I was looking for a used Outlander. I concur with a previous post that if I was going to buy a Outlander I wouldn't buy the new Nissan one in any flavor. Look for a lightly used Outlander GT with the V6 and 6 speed automatic or the Outlander PHEV (the Mitsubishi made model, not the Nissan).

For those that aren't aware, the outlander sport is the mitsubishi RVR in Canada.

[AtomicPunk]

I would steer clear of the CVT if I was looking for a used Outlander. I concur with a previous post that if I was going to buy a Outlander I wouldn't buy the new Nissan one in any flavor. Look for a lightly used Outlander GT with the V6 and 6 speed automatic or the Outlander PHEV (the Mitsubishi made model, not the Nissan).

Yeah, all I had to see was the engine compartment on the 2022: What a mess.
No thank you. That's why I'm looking at 2019-2020, still all Mitsubishi. I'm going to have to lurk on that Cross forum and see what the pain is about!

[inuvik]

Yeah, all I had to see was the engine compartment on the 2022: What a mess.
No thank you. That's why I'm looking at 2019-2020, still all Mitsubishi. I'm going to have to lurk on that Cross forum and see what the pain is about!

Here ya go for a look: https://www.eclipsecrossforums.com/

[Mark]

Yeah, all I had to see was the engine compartment on the 2022: What a mess.
No thank you. That's why I'm looking at 2019-2020, still all Mitsubishi. I'm going to have to lurk on that Cross forum and see what the pain is about!

I see very little advantage of the 1.5L Eclipse Cross engine. Horsepower & economy is not all that spectacular (compared to their more proven, larger non-turbo engines).

The only Mitsubishi vehicles that I would buy are the 5-speed manual Mirage & the 5-speed manual Outlander Sport (which does limit the choice to FWD only).

If I felt AWD/4WD was necessary, then my focus goes elsewhere. If I were buying a new AWD SUV, a non-turbo engine with an automatic transmission would get my money. In today's market, that would be the 2022 Toyota RAV4, 2022 Mazda CX-30, & 2022 Mazda CX-5. On a positive note, my shopping list would be quite short.

The last time (a few years ago now) I was in a Mitsubishi showroom I sat in an Outlander Sport & Outlander. I had no interest in sitting in the Eclipse Cross. I didn't care for the looks of it. I still like the looks of the Outlander Sport better. That's just personal preference. The Eclipse Cross could be a great vehicle. I'll just never know!

[Princess_Bishi]

Unless it's the Outlander with the 3.0L V6 & 6-speed automatic transmission, I would have zero interest in it.

Otherwise, my focus would be on the Toyota RAV4 & Mazda CX-5 with non-turbo engines and automatic transmissions. I'm not buying an SUV with a CVT while something else still exists. Everyone is free to think otherwise, however.

The 2.4 L power train found in the older Honda CR-Vs & Elements were quite good. I wouldn't even look at the current one.

If I could pick any SUV in mint condition, it would be a 2nd generation Honda CR-V AWD manual Sadly those don't really exist any more. I would pick that vehicle over anything offered in today's new market. Heck, that generation still had the folding table feature! I'm really not impressed with the current market.

I found out about the folding table when I detailed my friend’s 2002 model! I set it up and put my supplies on it, it was very handy. If anyone gets one of those CRVs however, I advise checking to make sure the airbags have had the recall service done. Not sure why they stopped including the folding table.

[Mark]

I found out about the folding table when I detailed my friend’s 2002 model! I set it up and put my supplies on it, it was very handy. If anyone gets one of those CRVs however, I advise checking to make sure the airbags have had the recall service done. Not sure why they stopped including the folding table.

I believe 2006 would have been the last year for the removable table. The 1st & 2nd generation Honda CR-Vs had them.

The first two generations had full size spares located on the rear hatch door, which meant the rear hatch door swung out rather than up. Since the spare was on the outside, some nice usable space was located under the folding table that covered the rear area.

The 3rd generation & up no longer had a full size spare stored on the rear hatch door, and the rear hatch door popped up like most other vehicles. When that change happened, the tables disappeared.