No more stick shift starting 2023 :(

[Mark]

I Know they can do 4-on -the- tree...

Where do they put reverse?

[precisionxt]

The safety crap is useless (to me) as I pay attention 100%. Most of the rest of the stuff is fru-fru. A/C and cruise is the only things I require.

Power windows are nice. But I could live with a manual window at the driver's seat, and power windows for the other 3.

100% agree here. As long as I have cruise and A/C, I am fine with manual windows, seats & climate control. It took me 8 months to find a low-mileage mail-slot ES with cruise + 5 speed but was well worth it.

Is Mitsubishi just dropping the manual for the U.S. market?

This sucks.

[7milesout]

100% agree here. As long as I have cruise and A/C, I am fine with manual windows, seats & climate control. It took me 8 months to find a low-mileage mail-slot ES with cruise + 5 speed but was well worth it.

Is Mitsubishi just dropping the manual for the U.S. market?

This sucks.

Yes they are, and yes this does. I believe Mitsubishi has a NA / U.S. HQ or customer center in the Nashville metro area. We could go there with our picket signs and protest! All 2 of us!

Who's with us?!!!

[klroger]

Where do they put reverse?

Here's how Ford did it... https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-tree.1176477/ Some European ones may be different. I've never driven one but I understand they were common on Mercedes at one time...

[Mirageman38]

You would think with the recent gas prices (likely to go up even higher after Nov) and surging inflation there would be increased demand for economy cars and this wouldn't be the right direction to go.

[7milesout]

You would think with the recent gas prices (likely to go up even higher after Nov) and surging inflation there would be increased demand for economy cars and this wouldn't be the right direction to go.

Agreed. But as such, is an indication as to just how well off we have it (compared to other countries).

[88coltturbo]

Still here for 2023 in Canada, but only the hatchback. The G4 has been dropped.

[Mirageman38]

Honestly the whole point of the G4 is lost on me. A worse MPG, $1,000 more expensive, car with LESS cargo space, and 1.5ft longer and over 100lbs heavier so it's harder to park and maneuver. I guess it looks different...

[mohammad]

Honestly the whole point of the G4 is lost on me. A worse MPG, $1,000 more expensive, car with LESS cargo space, and 1.5ft longer and over 100lbs heavier so it's harder to park and maneuver. I guess it looks different...

The sedan will be slightly safer in some accidents as there is structure behind the seats.

Im personally fond of sedans because the parcel shelf is not secure in my opinion. Im always scarred of people breaking my back window and taking out the parcel shelf to steal my stuff. Mainly a backpack with my laptop.

This is also an issue with sedans where the seats can be folded from the interior of the car like the tesla model 3: https://www.xautoworld.com/tesla/mod...dow-break-ins/ Or if the trunk can be opened mechanically from within the cabin.

This is why on all New Toyotas like 2020 and newer corolla, the rear seats fold from within the trunk. And the trunk cannot be opened via mechanical level located near the drivers seat. its instead an electronic switch that should require the car to be on to work.


On some new luxury vehicles like the bmw IX and Bmw i4 the SUV and hatchback parcel shelf is a solid inch thick piece of plastic that can only be removed when the car is unlocked and hatch is open. An interesting byproduct of this is that these vehicles now have that yellow latch to prevent you from accidentally kidnapping children like sedans do as the trunk is now Secure.

[Mirageman38]

That's true it might be a bit safer in some rear end accidents for the back passengers. I wouldn't be worried about theft that much or I would just take my bag with me. They would really have to be dumb thieves to target a Mirage for the *valuable* cargo they can't even see...