Mitsubishi "Renault Captur" ASX introduction

[Dirk Diggler]

One point seems to have been overlooked in the Renault/Mitsubishi discussion.

In Europe Renault is heavily advertising its electric cars, and presumably hoping they will earn a better reputation than what we saw from them in previous decades. Renault style car electrics were absolutely famous! I had one Renault with the fusebox built on a piece of flexible plastic with a plethora of inflexible electric plugs connecting to it. That caused frequent malfunctions on varying connectors and later even got the car on fire. I can't imagine anything being designed more cheaper and trashier. An apprentice would presumably have done it better.

Mitsubishi in contrast is heavily involved in very modern electronics, and also designs and fabricates their own chips. Mitsubishi also sells all sorts of electronic stuff to other car makers for installation as their own OEM. Their car business is just a small sideline in comparison to their electronics.

In the light of that and thinking of electric cars, might Renault be looking up to Mitsubishi as their aquired future knowledge source for modern, competitive electronics? I wouldn't be surprised.

IIRC the whole point of Nissan/Renault purchasing controlling shares of Mitsubishi Motors, was to have access to its PHEV and electrical research and development. I know every Honda has a Mitsubishi Electric made alternator or at least, they used to.

[vintzend]

I'll take the outdated, but proven Outlander Sport over this, but if I lived in Europe I'd check it out. It's not ugly and comes in manual, that alone should trigger some interests on here.

The Outlander Sport is the US name for the European ASX, if I understood the Wikipedia article correctly.

Europeans on here, is Renault really considered an unreliable brand? I know nothing about it.

I hear this mostly from people who, like myself, never owned a French car. A quick Google suggests it's somewhere in the middle of "20 most reliable car brands" research, FWIW.

[Dirk Diggler]

The Outlander Sport is the US name for the European ASX, if I understood the Wikipedia article correctly.



I hear this mostly from people who, like myself, never owned a French car. A quick Google suggests it's somewhere in the middle of "20 most reliable car brands" research, FWIW.

Yes but the American market is keeping the old ASX while Europe is getting the new rebadge. I'd be interested in Mitsubishi selling that here as a separate model, since it's smaller than the Outlander Sport.

[AtomicPunk]

Imagine how cool a Suzuki/Mitsubishi/Isuzu Alliance would be.

It wouldn't have been as financially stabile, but I bet we would have gotten some unique and innovative vehicles, that's for sure!

[vintzend]

but if I lived in Europe I'd check it out. It's not ugly and comes in manual, that alone should trigger some interests on here.

I think the issue is that if the original,which is really popular (I see those Renault Capturs driving literally everywhere), looks like this:



Only existing Mitsubishi customers would potentially be interested in:



They are too similar IMO....

[Dirk Diggler]

I think the issue is that if the original,which is really popular (I see those Renault Capturs driving literally everywhere), looks like this:



Only existing Mitsubishi customers would potentially be interested in:



They are too similar IMO....

Is the Mitsubishi warranty longer than Renaults? That alone is worth it.

[Mark]

One point seems to have been overlooked in the Renault/Mitsubishi discussion.

In Europe Renault is heavily advertising its electric cars, and presumably hoping they will earn a better reputation than what we saw from them in previous decades. Renault style car electrics were absolutely famous! I had one Renault with the fusebox built on a piece of flexible plastic with a plethora of inflexible electric plugs connecting to it. That caused frequent malfunctions on varying connectors and later even got the car on fire. I can't imagine anything being designed more cheaper and trashier. An apprentice would presumably have done it better.

Mitsubishi in contrast is heavily involved in very modern electronics, and also designs and fabricates their own chips. Mitsubishi also sells all sorts of electronic stuff to other car makers for installation as their own OEM. Their car business is just a small sideline in comparison to their electronics.

In the light of that and thinking of electric cars, might Renault be looking up to Mitsubishi as their aquired future knowledge source for modern, competitive electronics? I wouldn't be surprised.

Sewers suck down. I don't have high expectations from the Alliance. I hope they prove me wrong, however.