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    The least Expensive Car In America With An Automatic Tranmission Is.

    2023 Kia Rio

    Alex on Autos has mildly mentioned Mitsubishi Mirage in his review.

    https://youtu.be/liW3sTj2tgs

    Too bad he isnt interested to review one and be unbiased to his audience.


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    Quote Originally Posted by defensivetackle99 View Post
    2023 Kia Rio

    Alex on Autos has mildly mentioned Mitsubishi Mirage in his review.

    https://youtu.be/liW3sTj2tgs

    Too bad he isn’t interested to review one and be unbiased to his audience.

    "The Least Expensive Car In America With An Automatic Transmission Is The 2023 Kia Rio"

    So he tells us up front that the Mitsubishi Mirage with an automatic transmission is $200 cheaper than the Kia Rio with an automatic transmission.

    So the title should either say -

    The Least Expensive Car In America With An Automatic Transmission Is The 2023 Mitsubishi Mirage

    or

    The 2nd Least Expensive Car In America With An Automatic Transmission Is The 2023 Kia Rio

    Since he talks about the Kia Rio, he should have picked the last title, correct?

    None of these cars inspire me today. I have zero interest in KIA, Hyundai, Nissan, or current Mitsubishi products.

    If Toyota or Honda introduced a new economy car to the North American market, I would find that interesting. Given the current price of the Civic & Corolla, it would be nice to see the return of a more affordable model. I highly doubt that will happen, however.

    The Mirage has very little competition these days. Yet, it still dropped to its lowest sales number in 2022. I haven't seen 2nd quarter numbers, but 2023 1st quarter numbers were the worst ever!

    I seriously don't get it? There's no new Fit, Yaris, Spark, Sonic, Ford cars, Mazda 2, or Prius c competition.

    If the Ford F150 & Chevy Silverado disappeared, I think Ram truck sales would go up! That doesn't seem to be the case with the Mirage.

    I suppose some of the potential Mirage market may be going the EV route, but that's speculation on my part.

    If you factor in $7,500 tax incentive, the entry level Chevy Bolt is really not much more money than a Mirage. Only people I know personally who have bought new vehicles this year have bought the Chevy Bolt vehicles. One needed a daily driver for work (approximately 70 mile round trip), because his wife totaled his really nice VW Golf. They replaced the Golf with a Bolt. The other family bought a Bolt as their 2nd vehicle (young family with two young boys).
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    Mark, you may want to consider buying in Canada and importing. You instantly reap a 30% or better exchange on the dollar. Since you are exporting there are provisions to recapture the provincial sales tax at point of sale or after. Importing is not difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallythacker View Post
    Mark, you may want to consider buying in Canada and importing.
    Yeah, but if us 'Mericans did that, we'd have to own a Mirage with F'd up numbers on the speedometer. We'd never know how slow we were going!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallythacker View Post
    Mark, you may want to consider buying in Canada and importing. You instantly reap a 30% or better exchange on the dollar. Since you are exporting there are provisions to recapture the provincial sales tax at point of sale or after. Importing is not difficult.

    You could possibly land a new 2023 5MT for $10-12K US.
    Im not sure it would be easy for us State buyer to procure a Canadian-spec Mirage and have it exported. Would be nice even with the manual windows lol. I know the new Mazda2 in Puerto Rico for example doesnt have that tough process for someone from the State to buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by defensivetackle99 View Post
    I’m not sure it would be easy for us State buyer to procure a Canadian-spec Mirage and have it exported. Would be nice even with the manual windows lol. I know the new Mazda2 in Puerto Rico for example doesn’t have that tough process for someone from the State to buy.
    I guess someone would have to figure out how to enable tpms or would a stand alone setup be good enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallythacker View Post
    Mark, you may want to consider buying in Canada and importing. You instantly reap a 30% or better exchange on the dollar. Since you are exporting there are provisions to recapture the provincial sales tax at point of sale or after. Importing is not difficult.

    You could possibly land a new 2023 5MT for $10-12K US.
    Unless something changes, I don't see myself buying another vehicle any time soon. I had no problem driving a very basic 1990 Ford Festiva (63 horsepower fuel-injected, 2-door hatchback with 12" wheels) for 14 years. It didn't have simple features like cruise control, A/C, tachometer, intermittent wipers, passenger side mirror, rear wiper blade, air bags, traction/stability control, power windows, power locks, remote entry, etc... It was also $5,300 brand new (equals $12,332.62 today). I had to add a radio/cassette player, antenna, & 4-speakers myself.

    Selling that car when I did was one of the dumbest things I have done when it comes to cars. It was the perfect little daily driver (always got 40+ mpg on each tank of gas), & I was only paying about $99/year for car insurance (liability only) back then.

    I'm not making that mistake a 2nd time. Brand new Mirages for $7,500-9,500 caught my attention in 2017, & I bought one with the intention of driving it for a very long time. The Mirage is a luxury hatchback compared to the 1990 Festiva. If you factor in inflation, these cheap Mirages are the better value.

    If I needed a car today, a base level Mirage (doesn't exist) for under $12,000 would sway me away from the used market. Given today's market, I would be buying used. Shopping for a Mirage in Canada would probably remain a distant plan B. It's not a bad suggestion by any means. I remember looking at a used Yaris on cars.com (Ohio area) years ago that was originally from Canada. The price was great, but it had the metric issue, too. I really wish we were metric! That should have changed decades ago!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    I really wish we were metric! That should have changed decades ago!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7milesout View Post
    BLASPHEMY! Unfriended...
    I know! I know! The Imperial system makes us feel unique & gives us something in common with Myanmar and Liberia, even though I never heard of Myanmar before!

    I like the metric system. Moving decimal points is easier than doing fractions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7milesout View Post
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    From what people aged 40-50+ have told me America tried implementing the Metric system a few decades ago but Americans got really upset that they had to learn something that wasn't conditioned into them since childhood by default (same as usual) and claimed it was yet another attempt at a Communist takeover.


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