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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsumir View Post
    Battery-powered vehicles make no sense in areas with winters in -10C or lower temperatures.
    Many tried despite obvious reasons - and they all failed (battery-powered public buses in Montreal, same stupidity in Norway, and in few other colder climate places I dont remember now, but results were always the same: come one really cold winter day and all public transit there is "suddenly" dead ... as if they wouldn't know better lol)
    If buses with tons of batteries can't make it, obviously you can forget any passenger EV with puny battery (edit: unless you live in California or near equator, of course)
    All battery chemistries have difficulty operating in freezing temperatures. Li-ion battery chemistry works in freezing temperatures but needs to be heated for charging.

    BU-410: Charging at High and Low Temperatures

    Tesla has a heat pump system that serves not only the passenger compartment but the battery and other components - refer to their octovalve.

    I have not had a problem in winter use and range is a bit reduced (not unlike how cold temperatures affect the Mirage fuel economy) but it works. I'm sure there are some extreme examples where cold temperatures would induce a failure of some sort, but I haven't experienced it.


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    There is an easy solution. So easy even a caveman could resolve it.

    EV battery charging companies, and/or Tata, I mean Tesla, should make EV chargers that instead of charging at, I don't know, maybe 150 - 200 amps (or whatever amperage the super-charger charges), they should make them charge with 1 meeeeellion amps. And, instead of having to drag out that really heavy cable to plug in, they should just make it smaller and lighter. No bigger heavier than a gas pump hose. You pull it out, plug it in, turn your back to it, cover your crotch, and push the "charge" button and 1 second later after your get up off the ground, your EV battery is topped off and ready.

    It's just some booooollcrap to make an EV charger any less capable than that. Maybe I'll start an EV charging company, get rich and take over EVERYTHING!

    I'm in some kind of mood today ... just extra giddy I guess, since the First Annual Mirage à trois - Atlanta is tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7milesout View Post
    There is an easy solution. So easy even a caveman could resolve it.

    EV battery charging companies, and/or Tata, I mean Tesla, should make EV chargers that instead of charging at, I don't know, maybe 150 - 200 amps (or whatever amperage the super-charger charges), they should make them charge with 1 meeeeellion amps. And, instead of having to drag out that really heavy cable to plug in, they should just make it smaller and lighter. No bigger heavier than a gas pump hose. You pull it out, plug it in, turn your back to it, cover your crotch, and push the "charge" button and 1 second later after your get up off the ground, your EV battery is topped off and ready.

    It's just some booooollcrap to make an EV charger any less capable than that. Maybe I'll start an EV charging company, get rich and take over EVERYTHING!

    I'm in some kind of mood today ... just extra giddy I guess, since the First Annual Mirage à trois - Atlanta is tomorrow.
    Must be your mood or current drug choice, not sure which haha.

    1. Charging currents are limited by the battery chemistry. No other EV charges as fast. Tesla has designed and manufactures their own batteries, and they pushed the battery's capabilities in extensive testing.
    In order to take full advantage of today's Superchargers, a Tesla EV needs to 'precondition' the battery - by my understanding means heat up. And as the battery charges up, the charge rate slows down. It's just how the Li-ion chemistry works. Until a newer, better technology comes along...
    2. I'm going to guess that you have never even touched a Tesla charger cable... Tesla's charging connector is already smaller than all others and has been adopted as the North American Charging Standard. The cable & connector assembly are about as heavy as a gas pump hose and the connector both weighs less and is smaller than a gas pump nozzle. It can be argued that a broken fuel pump hose is a greater hazard than a broken EV charging cable.
    3. I just used a Supercharger on a trip yesterday. There was no "charge button" to push - I simply plugged the cable into the charge port and it started charging. The charging session took 14 minutes, delivered 29kWh and cost $11.31 charged to my account. I should have unplugged after 5 minutes - it was more than enough to get back home and charge back up overnight at 1/4 the cost of the Supercharger.
    4. If you do decide to invest in EV charging make sure you are using the Tesla NACS design. It will make all the other charging connectors obsolete. It's a bit of a shame for all those companies that invested in the other designs.

    You really ought to go for a ride in a Tesla. Make it a long distance, overnight trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    You really ought to go for a ride in a Tesla. Make it a long distance, overnight trip.
    It have to be overnight, that sucker would need it to charge! Ha!

    You see, Tata never had me as an engineer. I would have had the meeeeellion amp charger from day 1. I would add the pooooosh button charge start so you'd have the opportunity to cover your crotch with one hand (first) and pooooosh the button with the other. Battery technology my anus, just shove amps down its throat! I'm a whole nuther kind of en-ga-neer.


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