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    Quote Originally Posted by bcressy1987 View Post
    Happened to me too starting around 47k. I have done my own oil changes every 6 months between 6,000 and 7500 mile intervals using Mobil 1 filters and 0w 20 Subaru oil religiously. Switched to Mobil 1 EP 0w 20 oil and noise increased. After 1k miles on the new oil and filter I changed oil but not filter. Noise continued; after 1000 miles I Added 10 oz Rislone boy did it get louder and more constant. This weekend I drained the oil out with 1000 miles on it (300 w the Rislone additive) and it looked like crap. I assume something broke free when I switched to M1 and the added Rislone did something to clog the filter. Changed the filter and upgraded to Castrol Syntec 10w 30 and the noise is much quieter at idle (almost gone) and very low at cruising. I am in New England. Car calls for 10w 40 and 15w 40 in other markets!!! May go that route. Suspect the 0w 20 is too thin.
    Nice report.

    I have been wondering for a while .. which has more damage? .. starting an engine to idling for 10 minutes with a 10W/40 oil in a 20 deg C ambient temperature or driving for 1 hr in a 95-100 deg C engine operating temperature with 0W/20 oil.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitz View Post
    Nice report.

    I have been wondering for a while .. which has more damage? .. starting an engine to idling for 10 minutes with a 10W/40 oil in a 20 deg C ambient temperature or driving for 1 hr in a 95-100 deg C engine operating temperature with 0W/20 oil.
    That's why if this car is spec'ed for a 40w in other countries then M1 0w40 would be an ideal oil! Can anyone confirm mitsu specs a 40 in other countries?

    This country is speced for 20 due to EPA not what's best for your engine.

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    Nevermind my previous comments, I just re-read the spot in the manual where it talks about this. They do make it very clear that it's "recommended". I'm not sure why this didn't register the first time I read it; I think I saw 0w-20 and 5w-20 and assumed those there the only ones allowed. I will definitely be considering heavier oil for my next change.

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    It’s unlikely they’d be able to tell used 5w30 vs. 5w20

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    Noise has continued to increase. My service manager feels it is piston scoring and I am getting a new block under warranty. Bye 0w-20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcressy1987 View Post
    Noise has continued to increase. My service manager feels it is piston scoring and I am getting a new block under warranty. Bye 0w-20.
    Sorry to hear that bcressy1987 but it's good that your dealer is taking care of this for you. Be sure to keep us updated, and get pictures if possible.

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    When are you hearing this? I've noticed a bit of noise driving the first quarter mile or so a few times this winter and I don't like it.
    Can any of our fellow members in other countries read their owners manual and see what oil is recommended in their country? If it's a thicker oil, I'm switching.
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    I wonder if it's worth switching at this point, or if the damage has already been done just stick it out and get a replacement... 25k miles here. Hmm.

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    I started getting the noise around 47k miles. It is most pronounced for the first few minutes of operation. It smoothes out but never stops altogether once the engine is warm.

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    New block has been in for 3 weeks and no issues so far. greatly improved MPG at all operating conditions. Could not get any pics :-(



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