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    Nice!

    How much power do those things use?


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    Fun fact, my 18 is missing the sub fuse/relay box the earlier cars had in front of the battery.

    Soooo maybe it's auto climate only?

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    I just took a look at a 15' with manual heater controls and it has the same set up. I am now a believer. If I remember in the summer I'll tear one of the wrecks apart and take some pics. Name:  F010B237-DE65-467E-907E-D6D9DA18578F.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by tytotheler92 View Post
    Fun fact, my 18 is missing the sub fuse/relay box the earlier cars had in front of the battery.

    Soooo maybe it's auto climate only?
    Just to add to confusion & be a part of the conversation - I just looked @ my 2017 Mirage ES (manual temperature controls obviously). My Mirage has the fuse box in front of the battery, but when I looked inside of it there are only two 40-amp fuses, not three fuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Just to add to confusion & be a part of the conversation - I just looked @ my 2017 Mirage ES (manual temperature controls obviously). My Mirage has the fuse box in front of the battery, but when I looked inside of it there are only two 40-amp fuses, not three fuses.
    My '18 with auto climate control is the same. I have 2 fuses & 2 relays..

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    I just checked a 17' with manual controls, same thing.

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    Wow, so newer versions went with a cost-cutting measure? Each of my elements pulled between 22.7A-31A at 13.1 VDC (PTC is self regulating, depended on fan speed and entering air temp.) I really do have all 3 PTC elements and relays. Also a huge module hiding on the dash support with nylon zip ties only attaching the module

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    Quote Originally Posted by Premeir620 View Post
    Wow, so newer versions went with a cost-cutting measure? Each of my elements pulled between 22.7A-31A at 13.1 VDC (PTC is self regulating, depended on fan speed and entering air temp.) I really do have all 3 PTC elements and relays. Also a huge module hiding on the dash support with nylon zip ties only attaching the module
    That module is probably a dealer installed bluetooth. If you have your bluetooth controls to the left of the steering column I think they just zip tie the module to the dash. As far as I know the factory bluetooth controls are on the steering wheel.

    https://mirageforum.com/forum/showth...-the-glove-box

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fummins View Post
    That module is probably a dealer installed bluetooth. If you have your bluetooth controls to the left of the steering column I think they just zip tie the module to the dash. As far as I know the factory bluetooth controls are on the steering wheel.

    https://mirageforum.com/forum/showth...-the-glove-box
    My base level 2017 Mirage ES has a plain steering wheel (no added buttons). Just like you stated - Bluetooth is an add on option (located next to your traction control button on the lower left dash). Steering wheel controls along with Bluetooth became standard with all trim levels in 2018, & upper trim levels already had that.

    The base level Mirage has received some nice added features the past two years. Backup camera was sort of a mandatory thing, but Bluetooth came along with that. The addition of cruise & 6-way adjustable driver's seat in 2019 is great, because it's the only manual transmission offering.
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    But the real question is: can I pull out a fuse/relay and improve my winter economy?


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