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    That Douglas tire does sound interesting ... thanks for the info. But such huge and wide 185 tire should only be used at the drag strip! Har har har.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 7milesout View Post
    That Douglas tire does sound interesting ... thanks for the info. But such huge and wide 185 tire should only be used at the drag strip! Har har har.
    Instead of a 185/60r14 (22.7" diameter) Douglas tire, you could mount a 175/65r14 (23" diameter) Douglas tire on a factory 14" rim. Since 165/65r14 (22.4" diameter) tires can be hard to locate at times, it's not uncommon for people to go with 175/65r14 tires instead.

    A 175/65r14 Douglas tire (45,000 mile warranty) is currently $37/tire with free pickup @ Walmart in my area. I've never owned any Douglas tires, but I like their tread pattern. They look like they would be a decent all-season tire for snow.

    Personally, I plan on sticking with 165/65r14 tires now that more options (Federal, Nexen, Kumho, Falken, Vredestein, Dunlop, Bridgestone, & Nokian) exist. There are several lesser known brands that also manufacture 165/65r14 tires, but I will most likely stick with one of the others.

    For those willing to try to 175/65r14 tires, tire options become endless. Walmart offered 126 tire results for 175/65r14 tires this morning. Someone on the forum recently endorsed the 175/65r14 Westlake RP18 tires, & those are only $39/tire. Likewise, Dirk likes his 175/65r14 Barum Brillantis 2 tires from Discount Tire, & they are currently $37/tire in my area.
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    If someone was wanting to go with a 185 on a 14 rim they could go with a 185/55R14 which has a diameter of 22.1 inches which is close to same diameter of the stock 165/65R14. There are a few manufacturers that make tires in that size.

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    At work we've been running 185/60 14 which is closer in height to the stock 165/65 tires than the 175/65's I have on my car. I assume the 185/55 would be considerably wider than the 185/60's which are recommended for a min 5" wheel.

    Edit: nevermind I was wrong. According to tiresize.com the 185/60 and 185/55 14s have the same 7.3" width.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerF765 View Post
    If someone was wanting to go with a 185 on a 14” rim they could go with a 185/55R14 which has a diameter of 22.1 inches which is close to same diameter of the stock 165/65R14. There are a few manufacturers that make tires in that size.
    A person can make up whatever tire size they want on paper, but that doesn't mean you are improving your tire selection options.

    165/65r14 are 22.4" in diameter - factory
    175/55r14 are 22.6" in diameter - factory

    185/55r14 (22") is not a popular tire size. Walmart offers the Federal SS595 & Accelera Alpha (7 options for the same Federal & 1 for the Accelera). Two tire choices is way less than factory stock tire sizes, & I would never be interested in going smaller than the 22.4" factory diameter tires.

    By comparison, 185/60r14 (22.7") is closer to the factory size. Currently Walmart offers 83 tires options for this size. Many of them are brand names that we would recognize.

    The reason some members go with 175/65r14 (23") tires is they would rather go slightly larger rather than going smaller diameter. Walmart also offers 125 tire choices in that size, & the diameter variance is still only 2.7%. Anything within 3% is considered pretty acceptable in the tire industry.

    I am not saying a 185/55r14 won't work, but it may not be the direction to go because of very limited tire options. The reason for exploring other tire sizes is to increase options rather than limit them even more.

    It would have been nice if the Mirage came with 175/65r14 (23") or 185/55r15 (23") factory tires mounted on 5" wide rims. Walmart offers 85 tires options for 185/55r15 tires.

    Sidenote: If you have 14"x4.5" factory rims, 145-175mm tires would be the recommended tire sizes. Not saying 185 tires won't fit, but it's outside the recommended range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fummins View Post
    At work we've been running 185/60 14 which is closer in height to the stock 165/65 tires than the 175/65's I have on my car. I assume the 185/55 would be considerably wider than the 185/60's which are recommended for a min 5" wheel.

    Edit: nevermind I was wrong. According to tiresize.com the 185/60 and 185/55 14s have the same 7.3" width.
    Yeah, the 185 is the width (185mm). From everything everyone shares on the forum, 165-185 wide tires (within 23" diameter) do quite well on a Mirage. If you are searching for more tire options, some tire sizes are way more popular than others. 175/65r14 (23") & 185/60r14 (22.7") probably offer the most 14" tires choices for the Mirage in the States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fummins View Post
    At work we've been running 185/60 14 which is closer in height to the stock 165/65 tires than the 175/65's I have on my car. I assume the 185/55 would be considerably wider than the 185/60's which are recommended for a min 5" wheel.

    Edit: nevermind I was wrong. According to tiresize.com the 185/60 and 185/55 14s have the same 7.3" width.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basic View Post
    185 is 185 my man. You sipping the barley pops already today?
    Tire size calculators are still helpful regardless.

    165/65r14 tire verses a 175/65r14 tire will not only vary in width (10mm which is obvious), but they will also vary in diameter (which is not so obvious). The same tire profile number doesn't indicate the same overall tire diameter. If you don't know the difference, it's important to use a tire size calculator of some type.

    https://tiresize.com/comparison/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Tire size calculators are still helpful regardless.

    165/65r14 tire verses a 175/65r14 tire will not only vary in width (10mm which is obvious), but they will also vary in diameter (which is not so obvious). The same tire profile number doesn't indicate the same overall tire diameter. If you don't know the difference, it's important to use a tire size calculator of some type.

    https://tiresize.com/comparison/
    It should be obvious if you look at any piece of tire literature or website. 165 is a measurement. 65 is an aspect ratio. Nothing confusing about it. I know I sound like an ass, but we (the industry) have been trying to figure out for years why these questions still exist. We all have the answers published in every way we can think imagineable...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basic View Post
    It should be obvious if you look at any piece of tire literature or website. 165 is a measurement. 65 is an aspect ratio. Nothing confusing about it. I know I sound like an ass, but we (the industry) have been trying to figure out for years why these questions still exist. We all have the answers published in every way we can think imagineable...
    I don't get your point? Who said anything was confusing? What questions still exist?



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