You can definitely get after-market sensors that clip on to the VS-90 valve stems. I'm not sure I've seen programmable (clone-able) sensors that clip on to VS-90 valve stems. But I bet they exist at this point.
The tool I have can clone Autel brand sensors. Autel uses their own type of clip-on rubber valve stem. So if I switch to Autel brand clone-able sensors, I will have to change to their rubber valve stem as well. I've noticed multiple aftermarket brands of clone-able sensors that don't use the VS-90 valve stem for whatever reason.
Autel uses a single proprietary valve stem that works on all of their TPMS sensors...
Last edited by Top_Fuel; 04-17-2018 at 01:07 PM.
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View my fuel log 2015 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 52.2 mpg (US) ... 22.2 km/L ... 4.5 L/100 km ... 62.6 mpg (Imp)
I'm a bit late with this gloomy post, but I just tried to find this information in my own factory service manual, and so far, I don't see it. Maybe there's some revision I'm supposed to have, but don't. AS I look closer, I see that Inuvik and Eggman have signatures indicating 2015 Mirages, and my Mirage and Manual is for a 2014.
Maybe that explains the stupid or lazy dealers. Or not.
Michael
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View my fuel log 2014 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 46.0 mpg (US) ... 19.5 km/L ... 5.1 L/100 km ... 55.2 mpg (Imp)
Last edited by Eggman; 11-24-2018 at 10:57 PM.
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View my fuel log 2015 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 49.6 mpg (US) ... 21.1 km/L ... 4.7 L/100 km ... 59.5 mpg (Imp)
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View my fuel log 2014 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 46.0 mpg (US) ... 19.5 km/L ... 5.1 L/100 km ... 55.2 mpg (Imp)
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View my fuel log 2015 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 49.6 mpg (US) ... 21.1 km/L ... 4.7 L/100 km ... 59.5 mpg (Imp)
A lot has been learned about the TPMS system in the Mirage in the last 6 months. Personally, I would advise not to bother with trying to figure out how the Mirage registration process works with TPMS sensors. It's not something you can do without a fairly advanced $$ tool.
Sensor cloning is the simple/easy answer to all your TPMS problems because it doesn't involve interfacing with the Mirage's computer (which continues to be a challenge). Two of us (so far) have cloned our own sensors with our own TPMS tools and have tested them successfully.
If you are replacing a dead sensor...just clone the old sensor ID into a programmable replacement sensor. Problem solved. The TPMS light will remain off and no registration process is required.
If you want to run a second set of wheels with TPMS sensors, just clone all 4 of your existing sensors and install them in your other wheels. When you install those wheels on your car, your TPMS light will remain off without messing with a complicated registration process that requires a fairly sophisticated scan tool.
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View my fuel log 2015 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 52.2 mpg (US) ... 22.2 km/L ... 4.5 L/100 km ... 62.6 mpg (Imp)
Far easier to clone for sure. According to the FSM it is possible to store two sets of TPMS ID’s. That being said it is ridiculously convoluted and requires the ability to modify ETACS in order to make it happen. I tried to find my post of the process as described in the FSM but I couldn’t find it. It was at least a year or more ago. Cloning is the way to go.
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View my fuel log 2015 Mirage ES 1.2 automatic: 40.5 mpg (US) ... 17.2 km/L ... 5.8 L/100 km ... 48.6 mpg (Imp)
Top_Fuel (11-25-2018)
It's post #77 in this thread. I was well on the way to deciding cloning was the way to go when I ran across your post, and as I'd been pondering ETACS modifying tools and TPMS tools, I thought I'd look a little further.
Another thought that occurred was whether anyone migt have accidentally put on wheels with a pair of cloned sensors on them. That is 2 wheels transmitting the same ID. If I was programming ETACS, I would create a list of however many wheels were enabled, and populate it with the sensor IDs, and then iterate around the list. Of course it make not actually interrogate (or trigger) the sensors, it may just broadcast to all sensors and only accept replies from IDs in the list. I was wondering what would happen if each wheel set of 4 all had sensors with the same ID, then would it throw a fault? If not, then you could maybe have 4 sets of cloned sensors, all able to send alarms.
More practically, could we maybe have a Sticky listing all TPMS tools which have been verified as being able to clone a brans of sensor that the Mirage will read?
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View my fuel log 2014 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 46.0 mpg (US) ... 19.5 km/L ... 5.1 L/100 km ... 55.2 mpg (Imp)
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View my fuel log 2015 Mirage ES 1.2 automatic: 40.5 mpg (US) ... 17.2 km/L ... 5.8 L/100 km ... 48.6 mpg (Imp)