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    Quote Originally Posted by bzacon View Post
    I would argue that the Mirage on it's current platform (and moreso on earlier platforms) has already spent a lot of time bordering on being the smallest CUV. Although it has all of the small car cheapness, of other hatchbacks, it has that tall and skinny game going with enough ground clearance to be passable (between Impreza and factory lifted Impreza, which is one of the higher clearance CUV's out there.) It certainly handles like a CUV before you bolt on a shameless plug for a Daox rear sway bar. That said, the cost consideration is valid, unless you consider that it will probably be cheaper to make a couple of stripped back Mitsu trims on a Nissan platform than to develop a new Mitsubishi-only platform that's as cheap to manufacture as the outgoing body while updating for safety. (as a side note, Mitsubishi is already advertising their eevo concept on video screens in old Mitsubishi elevators here in Ha Noi. Loving the sight of all these Tritons, Rangers, Navaras, Kia Bongos and Suzuki Cary police "trucks". All the tiny trucks. Also Kia "New Morning" is one of the prevailing compact cars here, which we don't get to see in the west. This place is a small car spotter's paradise.
    Agree that our Mirage does sit up nice and high for a sub compact. Several things I'd like to see in the next one would be a wider rear hatch with less liftover, seats that fold down flatter and better handling. On that last one, I will have to check out the Doax swaybar and see if that helps. I normally don't drive fast enough to care much about sway, but had occasion to do so last night and was reminded how unsettling our cars can be. Even when cruising along straight ahead, one has to make frequent corrections to stay in the lane.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranny View Post
    Agree that our Mirage does sit up nice and high for a sub compact. Several things I'd like to see in the next one would be a wider rear hatch with less liftover, seats that fold down flatter and better handling. On that last one, I will have to check out the Doax swaybar and see if that helps. I normally don't drive fast enough to care much about sway, but had occasion to do so last night and was reminded how unsettling our cars can be. Even when cruising along straight ahead, one has to make frequent corrections to stay in the lane.
    Daox's bar is well worth it. I'm in Porrland... drive my car and you'll see 😀
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    According to Diaz

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex1a1f View Post
    Daox's bar is well worth it. I'm in Porrland... drive my car and you'll see 😀
    All mitsubishi platform will be electrified.
    Whatever that means, looks like the Mirage is no exception

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    Quote Originally Posted by cortisol View Post
    All mitsubishi platform will be electrified.
    Whatever that means, looks like the Mirage is no exception
    Ok. Random.
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    Disagree. I expect the new model will come with a conventional drivetrain.

    Hybridizing/electrifying it will raise the price too much and push it out of its entry level mission. North Americans don't like spending big money for small cars.

    This year's U.S. sales of the subcompact Toyota Prius C hybrid are only about 1/3 of the Mirage's current sales: http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales...oyota-prius-c/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex1a1f View Post
    Ok. Random.
    Sorry Alex1, I didn't mean to quote you, just to add that latest news I heard last night..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
    Disagree. I expect the new model will come with a conventional drivetrain.

    Hybridizing/electrifying it will raise the price too much and push it out of its entry level mission. North Americans don't like spending big money for small cars.

    This year's U.S. sales of the subcompact Toyota Prius C hybrid are only about 1/3 of the Mirage's current sales: http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales...oyota-prius-c/
    I kinda disagree too, but that's what I heard Diaz say via Bloomberg TV, listen to it yourself maybe I missed a word in the paraphrasing but he did say all... It is interesting you pointed out the Prius C sales, but Toyota is pretty much set on bringing the corolla hybrid for 2020 - presumably (but unconfirmed) with a modest increase in price tag. The question at hand is will mitsubishi follow the path with a modest increase in price tag.

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    I agree that the mirage has serious shortcomings as a hatchback. I remove the bottom seat cushion to allow the seats to fold flat. I he hatch needs to be wider and reach lower, but tthis would add cost and decrease the already poor rigidity of the car's body. I will be the first to admit, I'm a very spirited driver. I burn through tires fairly quickly and I wear out the outside edges from harder cornering n the engineers expected. I did the same thing in my last car (Accord) which was sporty compared to the mirage. Given that context, understand my full meaning when I advocate the Daox rear sway bar. I haven't broken it yet, so it's well enginerded, and it puts the car on rails compared to stock. I'm planning to have my summer tires (directionals) re-mounted on opposite sides for next summer, just to even out the tread wear before they die.


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