And suddenly I need a new engine!?

[Fummins]

Service lady "Hi, that knocking noise you heard was in fact the engine so were gonna install a brand new one. "
Me "oh wow, really..."
Service lady"yup, it'll be a week or so til the new one is in you can pick it up and drive it or...."
Me "keep it there til it's done if it's not in the way"


Once it's done it's getting cleaned up and sold. I don't need a $6000 Mirage. The $1000 one (+about $280 for windshield, rotors and pads) is working out fine so far. I wish the transmission would **** the bed already so I can replace it while I still have a spare. It'll probably start acting up once it warms up again.

And yeah, the knocky engine problems seem to be mostly a 2014-early 2015 problem(hopefully) and mostly in cold climate parts of the continent. I believe the 2017's have different pistons that help eliminate some of the problems in the cold. Different metal that doesn't shrink as much in extreme temp swings like wee sometimes get irc?

I noticed mine was noisy shortly after I bought it with 36k kms in the middle of winter. I just kept driving it like that from Dec 2019 til earlier this month(when I bought another much cheaper 2014 Mirage). We have a bunch of higher mileage(200-400k kms)out of warranty mirages that sound the same and they've been like that for years now so I just wasn't worried about it blowing up on me. But now I plan on selling it and wasn't sure what kinda hassle I'd get trying to get warranty on a car with now previous service records and being the third owner. The nearby mitsu dealer is never helpful. I ended up taking it across town to a Mitsu dealer I've never dealt with before rather than deal with the one I've dealt with through work for the past 6 years. Dropped it off last night after closing and got a call this afternoon. I figure it was a good call taking it there.

[strawboss]

I have noticed a rattling noise in my otherwise smooth quiet engine....started about 2 weeks ago.
I almost posted about it but thought it might be a loose heat shield, but the noise really doesn't fit that, it's more like a diesel rattle and like Darkfly600's symptom the rattle goes away at warmup.That's the clincher...
Going to call the dealer monday.
68000km.
Edited to add; I did all of my own oil changes and maintenance but kept all the receipts.
Glad I did!

[Mark]

I have noticed a rattling noise in my otherwise smooth quiet engine....started about 2 weeks ago.
I almost posted about it but thought it might be a loose heat shield, but the noise really doesn't fit that, it's more like a diesel rattle and like Darkfly600's symptom the rattle goes away at warmup.That's the clincher...
Going to call the dealer monday.
68000km.
Edited to add; I did all of my own oil changes and maintenance but kept all the receipts.
Glad I did!

I don't remember what thread Fummins posted a video clip of his Mirage engine running. Maybe he could share that again? Or share where to find it on the forum.

[MetroMPG]

Mine rattles/ticks a bit after a cold soak (freezing) start until the green temp/warmup light goes out (approximately 140F). But I'm 99.8643% sure it's just valvetrain noise. Doesn't sound like slap or knock.

[strawboss]

Talked with the service desk and they will look at it Wednesday.
They mentioned valve noise too, I always plug mine in before starting when it drops below -5C but this is a "new sound".
No worries.

[Fummins]

I have noticed a rattling noise in my otherwise smooth quiet engine....started about 2 weeks ago.
I almost posted about it but thought it might be a loose heat shield, but the noise really doesn't fit that, it's more like a diesel rattle and like Darkfly600's symptom the rattle goes away at warmup.That's the clincher...
Going to call the dealer monday.
68000km.
Edited to add; I did all of my own oil changes and maintenance but kept all the receipts.
Glad I did!

I bought mine at 36k kms in Nov 2019. It now has 50k km. I have no service records from the previous 2 owners, that's part of the reason I didn't bother trying sooner. All I have is a couple reciepts for buying oil filters from work, I lost the Crappy tire oil receipts long ago. Mine was clacky around 2000rpm under light load and much quieter at idle but still had a tick to it. I could hardly hear it when I drove it to the dealer though. The dealer didn't ask me for any service records..

I'd totally recommend trying to get a free engine! I'll dig up that clip and post it tonight after 27 beers.

[strawboss]

I bought mine at 36k kms in Nov 2019. It now has 50k km. I have no service records from the previous 2 owners, that's part of the reason I didn't bother trying sooner. All I have is a couple reciepts for buying oil filters from work, I lost the Crappy tire oil receipts long ago. Mine was clacky around 2000rpm under light load and much quieter at idle but still had a tick to it. I could hardly hear it when I drove it to the dealer though. The dealer didn't ask me for any service records..

I'd totally recommend trying to get a free engine! I'll dig up that clip and post it tonight after 27 beers.

Mine sounds like that, in fact when parked next to my brother's car with both engines running my brother (who has the mechanical aptitude of a gnat)noticed the ticking.
Geez, I would have expected a"too bad so sad" attitude from the dealer, but my last issue over an engine was with a Ford dealer back in the day. That wasn't pretty...

[Fummins]

Mine sounds like that, in fact when parked next to my brother's car with both engines running my brother (who has the mechanical aptitude of a gnat)noticed the ticking.
Geez, I would have expected a"too bad so sad" attitude from the dealer, but my last issue over an engine was with a Ford dealer back in the day. That wasn't pretty...

I expected to be told that too and leave with a $139 diagnostic charge plus shop supplies plus tax plug some other bs they try to add on.
Thankfully there are 3 Mitsu dealers in Edmonton. The one I've dealt with for the last 6 years has been pretty terrible 1000% of the time. After Mr-Dodge Aries K posted about buying a used one and getting a new engine no questions asked I figured it was worth a try. That and the fact that the dealer I deal with at work claimed they've had a bunch of engines need to be replaced, but they blamed it on the mz690072 oil filters we've used since new in 2014 and said we had to use the crappy little 1230a105 filters.

Most of the cars at work make noise like mine did, they don't blow up. Many have been clacking along for years and no sign of dying. But now I just jinxed that...

I had a 2 year old ford at work have a leaky rear main seal, it was repaired under warranty. A few month later it's out of warranty and leaking again. The dealer said to pound sand. If it were mine I'd be on them like white on rice to fix it for free, but it's not.

[Fummins]

Talked with the service desk and they will look at it Wednesday.
They mentioned valve noise too, I always plug mine in before starting when it drops below -5C but this is a "new sound".
No worries.

I parked mine in a heated garage in the winter, but don't plug in at work. It's always started but -30c or colder. Funny thing is the Mirage I bought from tyrel (from this forum) with 283,xxxkms earlier this month? hasn't had many if any recalls done and it's not as noisy as the white car with 50,000kms.

But the cvt is acting kinda wonky now, really surging and clunking when coming to a stop when cold. So I ordered a bendpak scissor lift lol. Should be here around April hopefully. https://www.bendpak.com/car-lifts/mi...-lifts/md-6xp/

Here's a clip of what the knocky white car from last month shortly before I quit driving it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io9r5PRbIFw&feature=youtu.be

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[strawboss]

I expected to be told that too and leave with a $139 diagnostic charge plus shop supplies plus tax plug some other bs they try to add on.
Thankfully there are 3 Mitsu dealers in Edmonton. The one I've dealt with for the last 6 years has been pretty terrible 1000% of the time. After Mr-Dodge Aries K posted about buying a used one and getting a new engine no questions asked I figured it was worth a try. That and the fact that the dealer I deal with at work claimed they've had a bunch of engines need to be replaced, but they blamed it on the mz690072 oil filters we've used since new in 2014 and said we had to use the crappy little 1230a105 filters.

Most of the cars at work make noise like mine did, they don't blow up. Many have been clacking along for years and no sign of dying. But now I just jinxed that...

I had a 2 year old ford at work have a leaky rear main seal, it was repaired under warranty. A few month later it's out of warranty and leaking again. The dealer said to pound sand. If it were mine I'd be on them like white on rice to fix it for free, but it's not.

Your ford deal sounds like mine. A used escort bought from the ford dealer in the 80's, I saw the valve seals were hard and blowing smoke at startup....fixed under warranty. A year later a TSB that I wasn't notified of cooked the head...2 weeks out of warranty, 'too bad so sad'...last ford product I ever bought and when I had the choice of having body work for the Mirage done at that (ford)dealer or another (GM) dealer down the road, I chose GM.
The engine noise in the clip sounds like mine, only louder/more pronounced.