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    I owned my 1994 Ford Aspire for 9 years. 145,000 miles. I had my 2005 Chrysler PT Cruiser for 12 years. 165,000 miles. Now I bought a 2018 Mitsubishi Mirage. 3 months now. 7,100 miles. Should hope to run her about 6 or more years and hoping for at least 150,000+



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    As I have gotten older, I have learned to be more content with what I already have. Vehicles are money pits & surely not investments. I hope to keep my 2017 Mirage ES (manual) for 10+ years. Having said that, the Mirage can't do everything that I need a vehicle to do. AWD/4WD vehicles have become more expensive to replace. One of the main reasons that I bought a Mirage was to extend the life of my 2011 Subaru Forester. I don't want to replace either vehicle any time soon. My Forester has two sets of wheels (one set being newer snow tires). I have the bars & attachments to haul kayaks, & I use my tow hitch/small trailer a lot. Now that Subaru replaced the short block of my Forester's engine for free last fall, I feel this vehicle @ 91,500 miles has a lot of life left in it. Not using the Forester as my daily driver (thanks to my Mirage) should make this vehicle last me a long time.

    I am very content with what I presently have. Since Subaru has dropped the manual transmissions in 2019, I wouldn't be buying another Forester anyways. Quite frankly, there isn't anything out there that I like better than what I have. Paid off vehicles are great!

    My first 4WD vehicle was a 1988 Isuzu Trooper (5 speed manual). I bought a demo model that was sold as a new vehicle with a couple thousand miles on it for $13,500. Basic, affordable, 4WD vehicles like the Trooper are long gone. Outside of some Jeep offerings, you can't buy a manual 4WD vehicle today. Thus, I don't see myself replacing what I have any time soon!
    What happened to your Forester engine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pryme View Post
    What happened to your Forester engine?
    I bought my 2011 Forester used in 2013 with 15,000 miles on it. Subaru recommends 7,500 mile oil changes. Since this was my first vehicle that required synthetic oil. I did 0W-20 Mobil 1 synthetic oil changes every 6,000 miles.

    Class action lawsuit against Subaru - My Subaru failed a 1,200-1,600 oil consumption test. I took my vehicle back at 1,000 miles during the test, because I wasn't going to drive it any more without adding oil. At the present rate of oil consumption, I would have been adding 6 quarts of expensive synthetic oil between oil changes, & this is a vehicle that holds 5.5 quarts. One 5 quart jug is not enough to do an oil change.

    Google Subaru oil consumption issues, & see if you want to buy one? Yet, Consumer Reports highly recommends these vehicles. I don't mean to knock Subaru totally. They did address my issue, but a class action lawsuit was working in my favor. They revised their boxer engine, and it had piston ring issues. Replacing piston rings wasn't solving the problem, however. When I picked up my Forester, the dealership had 7 more engines to replace at the time.

    My dad had the same issue with his 4 cylinder GMC Terrain. It's not like Subaru is the only company with issues. My dad's GMC vehicle was given a complete overhaul. Big difference, however, was GM gave him a 150,000 warranty when the work was done. Subaru is offering a 1,200 mile warranty on their work. Pretty lame!

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    Another Subaru example: I kept really close tabs on my Forester. I knew it would fail the oil consumption test big time, and it did!

    Another young couple that I know bought a 2012 Forester about the same time as I bought mine. They never checked their oil between oil changes. When they went in for a oil change @ their LaCrosse dealership, their Forester was running on 1.5 quarts of oil. They received a new engine without having to jump through the hoops of an oil consumption test.

    When this other couple shared their story with me, I decided to take mine in. I am glad that I did, too! It took them 6-weeks to do the the job, but I was given a free 2018 Outback loaner vehicle during that time. Their head mechanic had some family issues , & the dealership admitted that their average joe mechanic could not pull off these short block replacements. They were very up front and honest about that. Even though I do my own oil changes, I wasn't asked to prove anything. I bought my Subaru from a dealership in Milwaukee, but a Subaru dealership from Madison took very good care of me! I do appreciate that, too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pryme View Post
    What happened to your Forester engine?
    Long story short, the flat engine design is inherently flawed. The horizontally opposed layout leads to asymmetrical lubrication. There's much more info available by searching online for Subaru Oil Consumption.

    It's too bad because the rest of the car has so much to like. But as long as Subaru sticks to Boxer engines, they will continue to have these problems.

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2015 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 49.6 mpg (US) ... 21.1 km/L ... 4.7 L/100 km ... 59.5 mpg (Imp)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    Long story short, the flat engine design is inherently flawed. The horizontally opposed layout leads to asymmetrical lubrication. There's much more info available by searching online for Subaru Oil Consumption.

    It's too bad because the rest of the car has so much to like. But as long as Subaru sticks to Boxer engines, they will continue to have these problems.
    You don't have these oil gobbling issues on boxer aircraft (Rotax, Ulpower, Jabiru, etc.) engines. Nor do I recall my Vw's nor my Porsche 911/935's gobbling oil. I think it's clearly a Subaru engineering problem.

    Now, how long will I keep my Mirage? I plan on at least 18 years. I have an extended warranty that takes it out to 320,000kms. My daughter will get my 2017 in 2027 and I hope it sees her both through high school and university, 8 years or so. Who knows? I might find another $10,000 OTD Mirage deal in 2027 (don't laugh, most of my new car buys over the last 3 decades have been $10K OTD deals) and I'll give that to my daughter.
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    Zero, 2014 ES Plus 5MT, written off but not forgotten.
    Zero II, 2014 SE, 5MT, climate She's HOME now!
    Shelby AKA "Cute", 2017 ES 5MT, A/C.

    Mirage owners look at the world differently than everyone else, but in a better way
    We're driving the Beetle of the 21st century, the greatest small car now available!

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2017 Mirage ES PLus 1.2 manual: 39.0 mpg (US) ... 16.6 km/L ... 6.0 L/100 km ... 46.8 mpg (Imp)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    Long story short, the flat engine design is inherently flawed. The horizontally opposed layout leads to asymmetrical lubrication. There's much more info available by searching online for Subaru Oil Consumption.

    It's too bad because the rest of the car has so much to like. But as long as Subaru sticks to Boxer engines, they will continue to have these problems.
    My last ride, a 2004 Subaru Outback gave me nothing but trouble after 6 years of ownership and only having 140k miles on it. Constant electrical issues, oil leaking like crazy, catalytic converter crapping out, etc. Plus the 20 combined mpg made it feel like a Hummer not a cuv crossover. Subaru is overated IMO. Im glad Im driving a car from their nemesis, Mitsubishi. There's bad blood between the 2 manufacturers going back to the WRX vs EVO days.

    Nemesis list:

    Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge
    Toyota vs Honda vs Nissan
    Subaru vs Mitsubishi (at least back in the 90s)
    Volkswagen vs Volvo
    BMW vs Mercedes
    KIA vs Hyundai (same parent company, still in competition with each other)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler View Post
    Subaru is overated IMO.
    I somewhat agree with you! Subaru & Jeep have a somewhat loyal following that carries them.

    According to Edmunds, Subaru was only second to Toyota in customer brand loyalty in 2017. Honda was third. Chrysler was at the bottom of the list. Yet, Jeep was still in the middle of the pack.

    If it weren't for their Ram pickups & Jeeps, I somewhat doubt Chrysler would still exist?

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    8 years, '03 - '11. 1985 VW Rabbit Cabriolet, only some of those years my car was off the road. I miss the car and my Rabbit would always work, but it sat around a lot. I drove a Ford Escort for 7 years at the same time pretty much.

    I have owned my Mirage for 5 and a half years, since spring 2014.

    Also Mark ^ Fiat probably keeps Chrysler afloat also.
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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2014 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 42.2 mpg (US) ... 17.9 km/L ... 5.6 L/100 km ... 50.7 mpg (Imp)


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    Quote Originally Posted by dspace9 View Post
    Also Mark ^ Fiat probably keeps Chrysler afloat also.
    Fiat is dying in the States. The Mirage alone out sold all the Fiat models combined last year. I don't feel Fiat is helping Chrysler's & Jeep's image at all.



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