Cheap Plastic Car :: 2014 Mitsubishi Mirage DE (Garage entry)

[Mark]

I don't want to clog up Steve's thread about his car so maybe this discussion should be moved before it turns into 10 pages about nothing lol

Isn't that what we do here? Heck, he'a already has 20 pages on here about his "cheap plastic car". We may as well get it up to 25 pages. That way Steve has a page for every 10,000 miles on his car.

A Mirage being able to store two codes is a European feature, because some countries (like Finland) require snow tires by law. Sadly, the U.S. cars don't have the two code feature. This entire system is stupid! Something considered a a safety feature shouldn't be this complicated, & owners should be able to access these without using/buying an expensive tool. Sorry, I am venting some!

Since Steve didn't buy cloneable sensors, the ones he bought should have codes stamped on them already. I may be wrong about this, but it is what I would expect. He can just record the codes himself before handing them over to Walmart. I assume Steve will have Walmart mount the new tires with the new sensors, and then head over to the dealership. I hope the new ones match up with a Mirage. Personally, I would have checked with the dealership before purchasing these, but I don't assume just anything works with these things. Maybe it isn't a big deal what you buy if you are having the car itself reprogrammed?

I just made this thread 21 pages!

[stevedmc]

Isn't that what we do here? Heck, he'a already has 20 pages on here about his "cheap plastic car". We may as well get it up to 25 pages. That way Steve has a page for every 10,000 miles on his car.

A Mirage being able to store two codes is a European feature, because some countries (like Finland) require snow tires by law. Sadly, the U.S. cars don't have the two code feature. This entire system is stupid! Something considered a a safety feature shouldn't be this complicated, & owners should be able to access these without using/buying an expensive tool. Sorry, I am venting some!

Since Steve didn't buy cloneable sensors, the ones he bought should have codes stamped on them already. I may be wrong about this, but it is what I would expect. He can just record the codes himself before handing them over to Walmart. I assume Steve will have Walmart mount the new tires with the new sensors, and then head over to the dealership. I hope the new ones match up with a Mirage. Personally, I would have checked with the dealership before purchasing these, but I don't assume just anything works with these things. Maybe it isn't a big deal what you buy if you are having the car itself reprogrammed?

I just made this thread 21 pages!

I encourage hijacking of threads, including this one.

I’m pretty sure the sensors I bought will work. One of the members of this forum confirmed such.

My plan is to document the codes of the sensors, have them installed when I get new tires at Walmart, and then head over to the dealership to pay the big bucks to program the codes into the computer.

When it is time to get sensors again, I’ll find a company online that offers to clone what they sell.

[Top_Fuel]

...the ones he bought should have codes stamped on them already. I may be wrong about this, but it is what I would expect.
He can just record the codes himself before handing them over to Walmart.

Doh! Why didn't I think of that?!?

Steve...the sensor ID will look like this on the sensors you are getting (ID is in the yellow box). If in doubt, just take a pic of each one before they install them.

...I would have checked with the dealership before purchasing these...

When the tire shop broke one of my OEM sensors, they replaced it with the exact model of sensor that Steve just bought (VDO SE1001HPR). I have used aftermarket TPMS sensors in multiple vehicles with no issues. The list price on 1 sensor from the dealer is currently about $90.

[inuvik]

A Mirage being able to store two codes is a European feature, because some countries (like Finland) require snow tires by law. Sadly, the U.S. cars don't have the two code feature. This entire system is stupid! Something considered a a safety feature shouldn't be this complicated, & owners should be able to access these without using/buying an expensive tool. Sorry, I am venting some!

Well, technically US models CAN store two sets of TPMS codes. It's just that NO ONE (not even dealers so far) have been able to do it successfully. It's in the FSM and I posted the process awhile back. So I apologize for the formatting because it was a copy/paste from the FSM:

TPMS SPECIAL FUNCTION
TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR ID REGISTRATION
M1311003900162
"Tire Pressure Sensor ID Registration": To enter the ID into Set 1 when the TPMS transmitter or the ETACS-ECU <vehicles without Keyless Operation System> or KOS&OSS-ECU <vehicles with Keyless Operation System> is replaced.
"Tire PRS. Sensor ID Reg.(Set2)": To enter the ID into Set 2 when the TPMS transmitter or the ETACS-ECU <vehicles without Keyless Operation System> or KOS&OSS-ECU <vehicles with Keyless Operation System> is replaced.
ON-VEHICLE SERVICE
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WHEEL AND TIRE 31-43
"TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR ID REGISTRATION" METHOD
1.Select "4tires ID Reg. (Change tire PRS.)" and start the tire pressure sensor ID registration.
CAUTION
Register all tire pressure sensor IDs within twenty minutes.
2."4 SNSR ID Registration Do you want to start? Note Finish ID Registration within 20 minutes." is displayed. Then, press "OK."
NOTE:
If the ID code registration is not finished within 20 minutes, all the ID codes registered in the TPMS transmitter before will be erased. For this reason, the ID codes need to be registered again.
3.Decrease the tire pressure to 189 kPa (27.4 psi) or less by changing 20 kPa (2.9 psi) or more, and register the tire pressure sensor ID code of each wheel to ETACS-ECU <vehicles without Keyless Operation System> or KOS&OSS-ECU <vehicles with Keyless Operation System>.
NOTE:
.
You can start out the following operations from any TPMS transmitter. The tire pressure sensor ID registration has no order.
On completion of the tire pressure sensor ID code registration, the tire pressure sensor ID code is displayed on the scan tool MB991958 screen.
scan tool MB991958 cannot identify which registered TPMS transmitter is used for each wheel. For this reason, write down the tire number for each wheel when the tire number and ID code is displayed on the scan tool MB991958 during ID code registration.
It may take approximately one minute for the ID code to be displayed on the scan tool MB991958 screen after the tire pressure is reduced.
If the ID code is not displayed, reduce the tire pressure another 20 kPa (2.9 psi) or more. If the ID code is not displayed yet, rotate the tire to displace the TPMS transmitter, and reduce the tire pressure 20 kPa (2.9 psi) or more again.
If the ID code cannot be registered for all the four wheels, the ETACS-ECU <vehicles without Keyless Operation System> or KOS&OSS-ECU <vehicles with Keyless Operation System> may be faulty, thus replace the ETACS-ECU <vehicles without Keyless Operation System> or KOS&OSS-ECU <vehicles with Keyless Operation System>.
If the ID code can be registered for one wheel or more, the TPMS transmitter in which the code cannot be registered may be faulty, thus replace that TPMS transmitter.
ON-VEHICLE SERVICE
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31-44 WHEEL AND TIRE
4."4 SNSR ID Registration Completed." is displayed. Then, select "OK."
NOTE:
The TPMS indicator illuminates for tire pressure alarm.
5.After one minute or more has passed, correct the tire pressure for all wheels with ignition switch (engine starting switch) "ON".
6.Check the data list "Registered ID reception, Tire 1, 2, 3, 4" if "YES" is displayed for each tire. When "NO" is displayed, drive the vehicle for approximately 5 minutes, check the display again. If "NO" is still displayed, register the ID code again.
"TIRE PRS. SENSOR ID REG. (Set2)" METHOD
Follow "Tire Pressure Sensor ID Registration" method.
TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR ID CHECK
M1311004100095
"TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR ID CHECK" METHOD
You can check the tire pressure sensor ID on the diagnosis screen as described below.
1.Operate scan tool MB991958 as follows:
Press "Special function" button on the diagnosis screen.
Select "Tire Pressure Sensor ID Check" from the "Special function" menu.
CAUTION
If two sets of the IDs have been registered, the scan tool MB991958 will display the IDs of the wheels which are currently effective in the vehicle.
2.Check the tire pressure sensor IDs on the scan tool MB991958 screen.
TPMS TRANSMITTER CHECK
M1311004000117
According to the following procedures, identify which registered TPMS transmitter corresponds to which wheel, and check the tire pressure and acceleration value of each TPMS transmitter.
1.Check the data list "Air Pressure, Tire1, 2, 3, 4" and write down the tire pressure for all wheels.
NOTE:
The display at this time is the data received most recently.
2.Perform the following procedures for four wheels in order, identify the wheel by checking the tire pressure of each wheel.
(1)Change the pressure of tire for 20 kPa (2.9 psi) or more so that the TPMS transmitter sends the latest sensor data (The tire pressure can either be decreased or increased).
(2)Check the data list screen to determine which tire number corresponds to the wheel whose tire pressure has changed.
WHEEL AND TIRE
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WHEEL AND TIRE 31-45
NOTE:
.
It may take approximately one minute that the data of tire pressure change is displayed on the scan tool MB991958 screen.
If the data of tire pressure change is not displayed on the scan tool MB991958 screen, the most possible cause is that the radio wave sent from the TPMS transmitter cannot be received. In this case, the radio wave may be received by performing the procedures from (1) again after turning the tire to change the TPMS transmitter position. If the tire pressure change is still not displayed on the scan tool MB991958 screen, the TPMS transmitter in which the ID code is not registered may be installed, or the TPMS transmitter may be faulty. Therefore, perform ID code registration or replace the TPMS transmitter according to the instructions of troubleshooting for DTCs. (At this time, do not register the ID codes or replace the TPMS transmitter.)
3.Check the tire pressure or acceleration value shown in the screen (if needed).
4.After checking by the tire pressure change, adjust the checked tire pressure to the proper value.

[stevedmc]

Well, technically US models CAN store two sets of TPMS codes. It's just that NO ONE (not even dealers so far) have been able to do it successfully. It's in the FSM and I posted the process awhile back. So I apologize for the formatting because it was a copy/paste from the FSM:

TPMS SPECIAL FUNCTION
TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR ID REGISTRATION
M1311003900162
"Tire Pressure Sensor ID Registration": To enter the ID into Set 1 when the TPMS transmitter or the ETACS-ECU <vehicles without Keyless Operation System> or KOS&OSS-ECU <vehicles with Keyless Operation System> is replaced.
"Tire PRS. Sensor ID Reg.(Set2)": To enter the ID into Set 2 when the TPMS transmitter or the ETACS-ECU <vehicles without Keyless Operation System> or KOS&OSS-ECU <vehicles with Keyless Operation System> is replaced.
ON-VEHICLE SERVICE
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WHEEL AND TIRE 31-43
"TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR ID REGISTRATION" METHOD
1.Select "4tires ID Reg. (Change tire PRS.)" and start the tire pressure sensor ID registration.
CAUTION
Register all tire pressure sensor IDs within twenty minutes.
2."4 SNSR ID Registration Do you want to start? Note Finish ID Registration within 20 minutes." is displayed. Then, press "OK."
NOTE:
If the ID code registration is not finished within 20 minutes, all the ID codes registered in the TPMS transmitter before will be erased. For this reason, the ID codes need to be registered again.
3.Decrease the tire pressure to 189 kPa (27.4 psi) or less by changing 20 kPa (2.9 psi) or more, and register the tire pressure sensor ID code of each wheel to ETACS-ECU <vehicles without Keyless Operation System> or KOS&OSS-ECU <vehicles with Keyless Operation System>.
NOTE:
.
You can start out the following operations from any TPMS transmitter. The tire pressure sensor ID registration has no order.
On completion of the tire pressure sensor ID code registration, the tire pressure sensor ID code is displayed on the scan tool MB991958 screen.
scan tool MB991958 cannot identify which registered TPMS transmitter is used for each wheel. For this reason, write down the tire number for each wheel when the tire number and ID code is displayed on the scan tool MB991958 during ID code registration.
It may take approximately one minute for the ID code to be displayed on the scan tool MB991958 screen after the tire pressure is reduced.
If the ID code is not displayed, reduce the tire pressure another 20 kPa (2.9 psi) or more. If the ID code is not displayed yet, rotate the tire to displace the TPMS transmitter, and reduce the tire pressure 20 kPa (2.9 psi) or more again.
If the ID code cannot be registered for all the four wheels, the ETACS-ECU <vehicles without Keyless Operation System> or KOS&OSS-ECU <vehicles with Keyless Operation System> may be faulty, thus replace the ETACS-ECU <vehicles without Keyless Operation System> or KOS&OSS-ECU <vehicles with Keyless Operation System>.
If the ID code can be registered for one wheel or more, the TPMS transmitter in which the code cannot be registered may be faulty, thus replace that TPMS transmitter.
ON-VEHICLE SERVICE
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31-44 WHEEL AND TIRE
4."4 SNSR ID Registration Completed." is displayed. Then, select "OK."
NOTE:
The TPMS indicator illuminates for tire pressure alarm.
5.After one minute or more has passed, correct the tire pressure for all wheels with ignition switch (engine starting switch) "ON".
6.Check the data list "Registered ID reception, Tire 1, 2, 3, 4" if "YES" is displayed for each tire. When "NO" is displayed, drive the vehicle for approximately 5 minutes, check the display again. If "NO" is still displayed, register the ID code again.
"TIRE PRS. SENSOR ID REG. (Set2)" METHOD
Follow "Tire Pressure Sensor ID Registration" method.
TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR ID CHECK
M1311004100095
"TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR ID CHECK" METHOD
You can check the tire pressure sensor ID on the diagnosis screen as described below.
1.Operate scan tool MB991958 as follows:
Press "Special function" button on the diagnosis screen.
Select "Tire Pressure Sensor ID Check" from the "Special function" menu.
CAUTION
If two sets of the IDs have been registered, the scan tool MB991958 will display the IDs of the wheels which are currently effective in the vehicle.
2.Check the tire pressure sensor IDs on the scan tool MB991958 screen.
TPMS TRANSMITTER CHECK
M1311004000117
According to the following procedures, identify which registered TPMS transmitter corresponds to which wheel, and check the tire pressure and acceleration value of each TPMS transmitter.
1.Check the data list "Air Pressure, Tire1, 2, 3, 4" and write down the tire pressure for all wheels.
NOTE:
The display at this time is the data received most recently.
2.Perform the following procedures for four wheels in order, identify the wheel by checking the tire pressure of each wheel.
(1)Change the pressure of tire for 20 kPa (2.9 psi) or more so that the TPMS transmitter sends the latest sensor data (The tire pressure can either be decreased or increased).
(2)Check the data list screen to determine which tire number corresponds to the wheel whose tire pressure has changed.
WHEEL AND TIRE
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WHEEL AND TIRE 31-45
NOTE:
.
It may take approximately one minute that the data of tire pressure change is displayed on the scan tool MB991958 screen.
If the data of tire pressure change is not displayed on the scan tool MB991958 screen, the most possible cause is that the radio wave sent from the TPMS transmitter cannot be received. In this case, the radio wave may be received by performing the procedures from (1) again after turning the tire to change the TPMS transmitter position. If the tire pressure change is still not displayed on the scan tool MB991958 screen, the TPMS transmitter in which the ID code is not registered may be installed, or the TPMS transmitter may be faulty. Therefore, perform ID code registration or replace the TPMS transmitter according to the instructions of troubleshooting for DTCs. (At this time, do not register the ID codes or replace the TPMS transmitter.)
3.Check the tire pressure or acceleration value shown in the screen (if needed).
4.After checking by the tire pressure change, adjust the checked tire pressure to the proper value.

That’s a lot of words for something I can’t even do. My plan is much simpler; visit the dealership, bend over, and take it like a man.

[Mark]

That’s a lot of words for something I can’t even do. My plan is much simpler; visit the dealership, bend over, and take it like a man.

I agree with Steve on that one, & I don't mind being wrong about two sensors being stored. Not sure how to interpret it can be done, but no can figure out how to do it? I have some adjectives that would describe the Mirage's TPMS, but I rather keep it a family friendly forum!

I'm sorry, but it's just a lame system in my mind. At least the dealer can set someone up with new sensors. I am not a big fan of TPMS in general, but I don't want to move to Canada to avoid them. Not that I have anything against our Canadian friends to the north!!! Adding a piece of black electrical tape over the TPMS light would be cheaper than moving to another country.

Steve's dealership has given him about 50 free oil changes by now. If they make a little money off this, I wouldn't sweat it if I was him either.

[stevedmc]

Steve's dealership has given him about 50 free oil changes by now. If they make a little money off this, I wouldn't sweat it if I was him either.

I wish I could say amen to that.

I purchased my car from Gerry Lane Mitsubishi which is now out of business. Gerry Lane honors the free oil changes at their remaining Cadillac and Chevrolet dealerships.

Since Gerry Lane no longer has a Mitsubishi dealership, I will be forced to go to one of their competitors to get the TPMS ID codes programmed into the computer.

I get my oil changes at the Cadillac dealership. I will ask them about it next time I get an oil changed but I seriously doubt they kept the Mitsubishi equipment. More than likely it has been sold by now.

[A-Aron]

Like top fuel said take picks or write down the code for your sensors.. if you ever needed replacements or wanted a matching set in other wheels you could always have a member program a cloned set for your local guys to install..
Personally I bought a autel kit with tool and 8 sensors. 4 went in the white imola rims and I will probably break down my snows and put my other set in those when fall gets here.. keeping my stock set up for spares..
I kinda appreciate the safety of knowing that all my tires have air in them.. yes I check my pressures often.. but none of the flats I got other vehicles, were flat when I left my home.. it's good to know it's getting soft before it's flat... or ruined..

[Mark]

I wish I could say amen to that.

I purchased my car from Gerry Lane Mitsubishi which is now out of business. Gerry Lane honors the free oil changes at their remaining Cadillac and Chevrolet dealerships.

Since Gerry Lane no longer has a Mitsubishi dealership, I will be forced to go to one of their competitors to get the TPMS ID codes programmed into the computer.

I get my oil changes at the Cadillac dealership. I will ask them about it next time I get an oil changed but I seriously doubt they kept the Mitsubishi equipment. More than likely it has been sold by now.

Sorry, I forgot about that! Honoring their free oll changes is impressive!

[stevedmc]

Like top fuel said take picks or write down the code for your sensors..

Thats the plan. Once I get my new sensors, I will document their ID numbers on this forum for the whole world to see, including me. Providing this website never goes offline, I will always have the codes.