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Thread: 2019 Changes to the Mirage line-up in the U.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    I bought my 2017 Mirage ES (manual) last October. I had the option of buying a highly discounted manual ES or SE. It was simplicity of the manual climate controls & steel wheels that pulled me towards the purchase of the ES. I really like the manual climate controls on the base level Mirage. Two months after my purchase, I bought an extra pair of steel wheels and added snow tires to the front of my Mirage. The factory hubcaps slapped right on the new steel rims making it cheap & easy to do.

    The only thing I really gave up for that difference was the back up camera. For that sort of money, I can rely on mirrors & turn my head around better.

    If not priced to high, the 2019 Mirage ES (manual) with cruise is going to be a great package. From some of the things that I have read, the 2020 Mirage may be an updated/change vehicle. If that happens, they may want to push the 2019 models off the lots later next year. If you wait that long, however, you may run the risk of liking the changed model coming up. I doubt the next generation Mirage will be cheaper.
    Thanks for the info on after market cruise controls; I did not know about them.

    I've got a vehicle with a rear camera that came standard on that vehicle, and I almost always forget to look at it when I back up lol.

    So true about liking the new/changed 2019, as I love new automotive technologies; could care less about the other tech; but really there are many cars I'd prefer over the current Mirage in many ways, but for some reason getting something late model or new for very cheap and with good or great mpg seems to be my new mantra even if resale value is next to nothing, as I like to keep vehicles a very long time. And I hate the Nissan Versa for some reason, and the Spark just seems like the value is not there due to it's very small amount of space for basically the same or more money.

    The pre 2017 model Mirage worries me some due to the negative reviews about how it handles on the highway, as I'd drive it almost exclusively on the highway, albeit under 65 mph. I've never test driven an older model so those reviews may be exaggerated or unfounded, but I can't imagine anything about a new design beyond the 2017 that would make me think it's a must have; unless it comes standard with a 1.0-1.2L turbo engine with better mpg and not much more money, or they find a way to lower the drag to the point that it gets 3-4 more mpg on the highway, or they make it a 3-wheeler for less money with equal or better mpg.

    I've found that more and more, I've become a cheap skate when it comes to considering a new vehicle or late model vehicle. Back in the Fall of 2015, I researched and sought out a pickup truck configuration that almost no one wants these days. I wanted it to be as basic as I could find but with cruise control and good low end torque and power glass; the latter feature only because such a vehicle would be too wide to reach the passenger's side window from the driver's position. I would settle for nothing more than either a full size regular cab short bed or an extra cab mid-sized truck with a 6' bed (mid-sized don't come in regular cabs since Toyota dropped the option on the Tacoma); either minimally equipped. I ended up getting a full size for around $27.8K with the median price of a full size pickup sold in North America these days being at or about $45K. I decided on the F150 over the mid size, because the only mid size I could find with good low-end torque was a Colorado or Canyon diesel, and to get that option in that truck one has to take a whole lot of truck for a whole lot of bucks, with a bunch of unneeded towing features standard; and that was a non starter for me. There is also the concern for the reliability of diesels due to the complexity of the exhaust treatment systems that's used to make them "fuel neutral" emissions compliant. All other brands of full size and mid size did not have power trains offered that I liked for the money. Ford offered this small turbo gas engine for just an $800 premium and available down to the very lowest trim and configuration. MPG estimated at 19/26/22 but with reviews stating it was much lower. I took a chance knowing that I was getting the lightest and smallest version of this truck available and thought if I drove it easy, I could get at least 21 mpg. Well 36,000 miles later, and my average is 24.1; my worst is 21.7; and my best tank has been 26.5, but with 90% of the tanks coming in between 23 and 25.

    I feel like I've become even more cheap skate these days than even three years ago, and if I were shopping today for a new truck, I probably would have opted for the very old-designed Nissan Frontier with a 4 banger, extra cab and 2WD (another type of truck almost no one else buys) and get a deal under $19K even though I'm probably getting better mpg in my full size truck with 375 ft-lb torque than I would with the old tech Frontier with less than half that torque that is also smaller and less capable, and almost certainly the refinement is much better in what I'm driving. But even with all of that, $9K less would mean that it'd be paid off right now and it be the same age with the same mileage and mpg would probably be only around 1-2 less, and it'd have my preferred manual shift transmission. It is nice though getting 24 mpg in a full sized truck that has gobs of good torque and was inexpensive even as it is gas powered. The last pickup that I owned was configured the same way as my new one, but had only 150 hp and got 18 mpg no matter how I drove it. The bad part of my strategy though is having vehicles with almost no book value, because they are vehicle that hardly anyone else would want. I've got a 2007 Saturn Aura that's worth about $2K; a 2015 Fiat that's worth about $7,000; and a 2015 F150 that's probably worth around $14K; Hope I don't wreck or have to sell any of them.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Two months after my purchase, I bought an extra pair of steel wheels and added snow tires to the front of my Mirage.
    Off-topic, but I'm sure you know what the risks are in having snow tires only on the front end of a FWD vehicle.

    I doubt the next generation Mirage will be cheaper.
    ... or lighter, or more efficient.

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    On the highway, my '14 Mirage at 65 mph is not bad and when I got it I took it on I75 from Port Huron to Mackinac, and for what it is not bad. So light and small no matter what is that's part of the issue, and it's not a Porsche going from the on ramp to merging on the freeway. Lots of torque pick up in 4th around 100 kms/h, better suited for country roads, but a Ford Taurus isn't much faster probably

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 214 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 39.8 mpg (US) ... 16.9 km/L ... 5.9 L/100 km ... 47.8 mpg (Imp)


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    Quote Originally Posted by dspace9 View Post
    On the highway, my '14 Mirage at 65 mph is not bad and when I got it I took it on I75 from Port Huron to Mackinac, and for what it is not bad. So light and small no matter what is that's part of the issue, and it's not a Porsche going from the on ramp to merging on the freeway. Lots of torque pick up in 4th around 100 kms/h, better suited for country roads, but a Ford Taurus isn't much faster probably
    At least provided it isn't raining hard enough to have a constant film of water on the freeway. Today was frustrating for me mileage-wise because of that.

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    True, same weather here in Ontario today. Winter I use maybe 10% more gas, haven't calculated it. But if I avg 5.0 L/100 kms summer I get about 6 in the winter give or take

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    2019 Mirage specs are now on Mitsu's media site:

    http://media.mitsubishicars.com/chan...rage-press-kit

    I haven't checked the consumer site.

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    LOL what is with Mitsu and adding/changing the trim levels! Wowsa. Now there are 4 hatch trim levels, but 2 G4 trim levels. Thats not confusing at all??? I do not understand.
    Custom Mirage products: Cruise control kit, Glove box light, MAF sensor housing, Rear sway bar, Upper grill block

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daox View Post
    LOL what is with Mitsu and adding/changing the trim levels! Wowsa. Now there are 4 hatch trim levels, but 2 G4 trim levels. Thats not confusing at all??? I do not understand.
    I feel like 3 trim levels is acceptable...but more is confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timw4mail View Post
    I feel like 3 trim levels is acceptable...but more is confusing.
    Sadly, only the ES trim can be had with a manual transmission. I question wedging a 4th trim level in between the existing ones, too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Sadly, only the ES trim can be had with a manual transmission. I question wedging a 4th trim level in between the existing ones, too!
    Like Mitsubishi wedged a new CUV between the two sport utilities they already had? "Wedging" seems to be their thing...



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