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    Quote Originally Posted by timw4mail View Post
    So I'm looking into winter tires, and thinking ahead for replacing the OEM tires.

    I don't really want to worry about upsizing the wheels. Have people run other 14 tires, that aren't the OEM 165/65R14 size?
    timw4mail, have a look at these threads:
    Wheels: What Else Fits the Mirage? (With photos)
    Craigslist finds

    With time and patience you can find another set of wheels that suits your needs and used rims will save you some cash. Save a search on your Craigslist account in your area and have the new listings sent to you by email and you'll see what comes available. Browse local scrap yards. You get the idea.

    Best wishes.


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    timw4mail, I'm not sure where in Michigan you are from but here is a search of Craigslist within 200 miles of Ann Arbor:

    Craigslist Ann Arbor Wheels: Mirage | Miev | Mini | Civic | Integra

    Where I found a set of Honda Civic HX wheels for sale.

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    For sale is a set of wheels from a 1998 Honda Civic Hx. The center caps are not original--they are from a Civic Si. They fit the center bore tightly but can plunge in and out a little bit.

    Full wheel specs:

    Size: 14x5.5J ET45
    Bolt pattern: 4x100mm
    Thread size: M12x1.5
    Center bore: 56.1mm
    Though I don't know their weight, these are supposed to be a good quality, light set of wheels. Just remember you'll need to use Honda ball-type lug nuts with Honda factory rims.

    I'm sure that in time you can find a decent set of rims for $100 or less. Best wishes.

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    I have Pirelli 'Snow Control Serie 3' studless snow tires on stock steelies purchased from another forumer who was upgrading to aftermarket alloys. The tires came from either Tire Rack or Discount Tire, and I bought them a couple springs ago when they were being blown out. They are 165/65-14, and were about $30 each.

    The Pirellis have been great for the last two winters. However, the TPMS situation with these cars continues to be a pain in the ass during the winter. I installed a set of sensors in my snow wheels, but refuse to go to the stealership 30 miles away to have these sensors coded to the car for $100 only to have to do it again 4 months later when I put the Goodyear all-seasons back on.

    Stock 14" x 4.5" steelies shouldn't be too hard to find. If you play your cards right you might even be able to find a set of steelies with decent OEM Enasaves and 'kill two birds with one stone' (steel wheels for snow tires, extra Enasaves for when the time comes). Personally, I wouldn't want to damage an aftermarket alloy wheel by sliding into a curb on an icy January day no matter how little those alloys cost. Steelies are much easier to straighten.

    The key to buying snow tires is the same as with anything else: if you want them cheap, buy them OUT-OF-SEASON.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobrajet View Post
    ...the TPMS situation with these cars continues to be a pain in the ass during the winter.
    I still need to test my programmable sensor. If these work as expected, you could have a second set of sensors cloned to match your current ones for about $100.

    I talked to a local tire shop and they sell/install clone-able sensors. But they charge $75/each for them.

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    Tire choices

    It really comes down to what you want in tires year round. As long as few good options (summer & winter) exist, I am ok with 165/65r14 tires (22.4”) year round.

    A 175/65r14 tire (23”) has many more options in the U.S. market, & they would be fine on factory 14” x 4.5” rims. I wish this was the standard tire size for the U.S. Mirage, & I know many are using this size with no issue.

    If a person is going to stick with 165 or 175 wide tires, factory rims (alloy or steel) are just fine. There’s no reason to go with wider rims, which would create extra weight. In this case, picking up some used rims (alloys or steel) is the best plan. The Mirage was obviously designed for 165/65r14 (22.4”) & 175/55r15 (22.6”) tires.

    If your heart is really set on a wider/lower profile tire like a 185/55r15 (23”), it may be better to focus your money toward those new rims & use your factory rims for winter tires. It really comes down to personal choice and what a person wants.

    If a person is just interested in more tire options, a higher profile 175/65r14 (23”) tire has more available options than a lower profile 185/55r15 (23”) tire. The bottom line is both tires are 23” in diameter.

    Good luck with whatever you decide or do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    It really comes down to what you want in tires year round. As long as few good options (summer & winter) exist, I am ok with 165/65r14 tires (22.4”) year round.

    A 175/65r14 tire (23”) has many more options in the U.S. market, & they would be fine on factory 14” x 4.5” rims. I wish this was the standard tire size for the U.S. Mirage, & I know many are using this size with no issue.

    If a person is going to stick with 165 or 175 wide tires, factory rims (alloy or steel) are just fine. There’s no reason to go with wider rims, which would create extra weight. In this case, picking up some used rims (alloys or steel) is the best plan. The Mirage was obviously designed for 165/65r14 (22.4”) & 175/55r15 (22.6”) tires.

    If your heart is really set on a wider/lower profile tire like a 185/55r15 (23”), it may be better to focus your money toward those new rims & use your factory rims for winter tires. It really comes down to personal choice and what a person wants.

    If a person is just interested in more tire options, a higher profile 175/65r14 (23”) tire has more available options than a lower profile 185/55r15 (23”) tire. The bottom line is both tires are 23” in diameter.

    Good luck with whatever you decide or do!
    Well, thinking forward, I would rather adjust the car for a more common tire, like 175/65R14, and then eventually replace the OEM tires, rather than be locked into little choice.

    At least there are a few choices in the OEM size, though. My Scion iQ had one set of all seasons, and one set of winter tires in the OEM size, and I think they've since been discontinued.

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    Hi, I am wondering how did 185-70-14’s tires work on your car? I have the same tires, but not sure if they fit my Mirage. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyforrest View Post
    Hi, I am wondering how did 185-70-14’s tires work on your car? I have the same tires, but not sure if they fit my Mirage. Thanks!
    The outside diameter of Mirage factory tires are 22.4" & 22.6" (depending on 14" or 15" stock tires).

    The outside diameter of 185/70r14 tires are 24.2".

    Most tire experts feel a 3% variance in tire size is acceptable. The variance for 185/70r14 tires is +8%.

    Unless some type of modifications are made, outside diameter tire sizes of 22-23" are a safe bet for a stock Mirage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyforrest View Post
    Hi, I am wondering how did 185-70-14’s tires work on your car? I have the same tires, but not sure if they fit my Mirage. Thanks!
    I still have the 185-70-14’s on the car and have not had any issues other than a rub when hard braking. I’m still planning on switching over to the nicer newer 185-60-14’s but I’ve been busy so they’re still sitting in the garage.

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    So one of my wheels bent. Looking to buy a new wheel but can only find 14x5 or 14x5.5 would it be Ann issue to have one wheel a 5 or 5.5? Thanks in advance look forward to hearing back



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