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    Quote Originally Posted by Pryme View Post
    The car is designed for 87. You may actually lose power using premium. Along with having the possibility of getting deposits due to not getting completely burned.
    Are you sure about that? My owners manual says:
    Quote Originally Posted by Öwners manual
    Recommended fuel: Unleaded petrol with octane number 95 RON or higher

    Your vehicle has an anti pingel system, so you can use unleaded petrol 90 RON as an emergency measure if 95 RON is not available.
    No special adjustment of the engine is required. Using 90 RON reduces engine performance.
    (Sorry, don't know how to translate pingel. Knock, maybe?)

    Don't know if the numbers in Europe mean the same as in the US. But the recommandation 'or higher' doesn't contain a warning.

    Further off-topic: as far as I know here in the Netherlands only 95 and 98 is sold. I remember to have seen 92 somewhere next to a highway abroad. I wouldn't know where to buy 90.
    So either the numbers mean something different, or petrol in the US is different from petrol here. 87?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Wolf View Post
    Are you sure about that? My owners manual saysSorry, don't know how to translate pingel. Knock, maybe?)

    Don't know if the numbers in Europe mean the same as in the US. But the recommandation 'or higher' doesn't contain a warning.

    Further off-topic: as far as I know here in the Netherlands only 95 and 98 is sold. I remember to have seen 92 somewhere next to a highway abroad. I wouldn't know where to buy 90.
    So either the numbers mean something different, or petrol in the US is different from petrol here. 87?
    The octane rating system is different in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timw4mail View Post
    The octane rating system is different in the US.
    For what’s its worth, a gallon isn’t a gallon in Britain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Wolf View Post
    Are you sure about that? My owners manual saysSorry, don't know how to translate pingel. Knock, maybe?)

    Don't know if the numbers in Europe mean the same as in the US. But the recommandation 'or higher' doesn't contain a warning.

    Further off-topic: as far as I know here in the Netherlands only 95 and 98 is sold. I remember to have seen 92 somewhere next to a highway abroad. I wouldn't know where to buy 90.
    So either the numbers mean something different, or petrol in the US is different from petrol here. 87?
    Yes, I'm sure its spec'ed for 87oct here

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    Ooppss .. the subject matter has suddenly shifted into another topic which should be put or merged into another topic.

    US Octane rating is defined differently.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

    https://www.economist.com/babbage/20...-needs-premium

    http://www.pencilgeek.org/2009/05/oc...nversions.html

    I have this in my Owner's Manual

    "Recommended Fuel:

    Vehicles except for Argentina:
    Unleaded petrol octane number 90 RON or higher

    Vehicles for Argentina:
    Unleaded petrol octane number 95 RON or higher

    NOTE:
    For Argentina vehicles have the knock control system so that you can use unleaded petrol 90 RON or higher ... in case unleaded petrol 95 is not available...

    In case of using petrol 90 RON or higher, the engine performance is reduced."


    This implies that using any grade lower than 95 RON results to worse performance for the Argentinian model while for the other markets RON 90 and up is recommended.

    For me, I started w/ 93 from dealership and went up to 95 on my first fill up and to 97 in my subsequent fill ups.

    At our local groups, it has been observed that many fuel-related issues are attributed to the use of fuel lower than RON 95.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitz View Post
    At our local groups, it has been observed that many fuel-related issues are attributed to the use of fuel lower than RON 95.
    Thanks, this is good to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitz View Post
    US Octane rating is defined differently.

    http://www.pencilgeek.org/2009/05/oc...nversions.html

    "Recommended Fuel:

    Vehicles except for Argentina:
    Unleaded petrol octane number 90 RON or higher

    Vehicles for Argentina:
    Unleaded petrol octane number 95 RON or higher

    Right. According to the conversion table in that link 87 (R+M)/2 equals to 91.1 RON. And the US is outside Argentina, where 90+ RON is recommended, so that's close enough.

    Remains the question why my Owners manual recommends 95+ RON, while the Netherlands is also outside Argentina. Maybe our Argentinian queen?

    BTW, @Mitz: why does your manual talk about Argentina? That's a half world further, AFAIK?
    Last edited by Space Wolf; 12-01-2018 at 05:28 PM.

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    Yup, we use AKI here in the US where most others use RON. It can be quite confusing.
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    Have you thought of using some capacitors in conjunction with that battery?
    Shake and bake baby

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    Nope.

    I'm a fan of keeping things as simple, light and cheap as possible.

    $30 battery. No frills. It gets the job done.

    I won't lie, though. I have had to use my jump pack a couple times. Usually if I drive the car at night and/or in the rain, and then park it for a week. Or if I start the car a couple times without actually DRIVING it to get some charge into the battery. Something like that. As long as I drive the car every 3-4 days, it starts every time.

    Of course, I only paid about $22 for a little Lithium jump pack. So, I'm still in for less than half the cost of a standard car battery. And the weight reduction, as noted, is huge.


    Simplify and add lightness.

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