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    And Another CVT problem.

    I just got word that another Mirage is having problems with the transmission. I don't many details other than it doesn't have more than 120k kms/74500miles. It's a 2015.
    Last edited by Fummins; 01-18-2019 at 02:25 PM.

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2014 Mirage SE wussie cvt edition. 1.2 automatic: 37.7 mpg (US) ... 16.0 km/L ... 6.2 L/100 km ... 45.3 mpg (Imp)


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    Yikes. I would say your fleet is driven a bit harder than someone's personal car but that sucks.

    I personally wont own a cvt, in any vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pryme View Post
    I personally wont own a cvt, in any vehicle.
    I feel the same way!

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    Well Fumins,

    At least you cheer me up better about choosing the 5 speed manual for my car. There was a time when I regretted choosing the manual transmission and wished that I had gotten the CVT instead.

    In my city when looking at a used 2015 Mirage (this week) there is not much price difference between cvt or manual when buying from private owners on Craigslist .
    2015 Mirage DE 5 speed Manual - 30k miles

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2015 Mirage DE 1.2 manual: 44.9 mpg (US) ... 19.1 km/L ... 5.2 L/100 km ... 53.9 mpg (Imp)


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    Boooooooo!!! Keep us posted when you tear that thing apart.... and maybe pics of putting a new one back in...

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2014 Mirage ES 1.2 automatic: 36.9 mpg (US) ... 15.7 km/L ... 6.4 L/100 km ... 44.3 mpg (Imp)


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    Thanks for the heads-up Fummins. I'm sure you'll keep us apprised of the situation so thanks in advance too.
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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2018 Mirage GT 1.2 automatic: 38.0 mpg (US) ... 16.1 km/L ... 6.2 L/100 km ... 45.6 mpg (Imp)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fummins View Post
    I just got word that another Mirage is having problems with the transmission. I don't many details other than it doesn't have more than 120k kms/74500miles.
    What model year? Is your fleet all 14/15's, or do you have some newer ones, too? Just wondering if JATCO may have fixed that thrush washer issue...

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    Speaking of CVTs, I recently had a conversation with two people who drove a 2007 Nissan Versa SL and a 2009 Nissan Rogue back in the shop. The Rogue's CVT decided to pack it in while he was driving home from work, while the Versa's started going bad. Although the former had an extended powertrain warranty to replace the entire transmission, the latter's warranty had already expired. After looking at a $5,000 CDN estimate to replace the faulty CVT, she decided to scrap the entire car altogether, with over 130,000 km on the clock, and bought herself a new car, this time with a traditional 6-speed automatic. Knowing Mitsubishi and Nissan used Jatco as their transmission supplier, I wouldn't be surprised based on the number of YouTube videos I watched regarding CVT failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtr990 View Post
    Speaking of CVTs, I recently had a conversation with two people who drove a 2007 Nissan Versa SL and a 2009 Nissan Rogue back in the shop. The Rogue's CVT decided to pack it in while he was driving home from work, while the Versa's started going bad. Although the former had an extended powertrain warranty to replace the entire transmission, the latter's warranty had already expired. After looking at a $5,000 CDN estimate to replace the faulty CVT, she decided to scrap the entire car altogether, with over 130,000 km on the clock, and bought herself a new car, this time with a traditional 6-speed automatic. Knowing Mitsubishi and Nissan used Jatco as their transmission supplier, I wouldn't be surprised based on the number of YouTube videos I watched regarding CVT failure.
    As long as manual transmissions are still available, I will be buying them. When Subaru went from a 4-speed automatic in their Forester to a CVT, the towing capacity of the vehicle dropped from 2500 pounds to 1500 pounds. The tiny Ford Ecosport is rated to tow 2000 pounds, which isn't bad for a very small SUV. I believe part of that rating is related to the 6-speed automatic transmission in those vehicles.

    I understand the logic & appeal of the CVT, but I don't feel it improves the quality of the vehicle. If I had to replace my 2011 Subaru Forester 2.5X (manual), it would not be something with a CVT. Since Honda CRV & Toyota RAV4 had dropped their manual offerings years ago, it was the main reason I bought a used Subaru in 2013. My favorite vehicle was a first generation 2000 Honda CRV LX AWD (manual). It was a little quirky like the Mirage, but super dependable. Did what it was suppose to do without much flash. If it hadn't been rear ended by a Chevy Tahoe, I may be still driving it today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Our driving school owner bought 6 new 2016 Ford Focus vehicles (CVT) for our instructors in early 2017. All of those vehicles are beginning to act up with transmission issues. I am not sold on CVT transmissions. I use a 2015 Chevy Impala Limited (very basic model) with a 6-speed automatic transmission for btw lessons, & it seems rock solid with no issues. The Impala has 2.5X more mileage on it than the Fords, & I don't expect to have any transmission issues with it. .
    For the record, Mark, the Ford Focus (2012-2018) didn't came with CVTs. It used Ford's PowerShift automatic transmission. It's essentially a 6-speed dual-clutch automated manual transmission. Plus, the Toyota RAV4 still uses a traditional automatic transmission.

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