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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike View Post
    ...it just cut out.
    ...it will not crank at all immediately after cutting out (no sound from starter)
    ...after waiting 30-60 seconds it would finally crank and start up again
    At least we're getting an idea of what's going on. This sure sounds like an electrical issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by fummins
    Do you have push button start or traditional key?
    Not cranking sounds like maybe a security problem? Dead battery in the keyfob?
    The fact that the starter won't crank right after the engines dies makes me believe that these are both caused by the same issue. Let us know if you have push-button start. Have you ever noticed any unusual lights on your dash when this happens (like the security light)?


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    Once the engine is running, I wouldn't expect a low battery on a pushbutton start transponder key to cause the engine to quit running.

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    This is interesting:

    sudden rpm spike from 1500-3000 while doing about 30mph, and 15 seconds later i was at the stoplight where it just cut out.
    Neither the fuel issue or loose battery connection would explain that.

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    You can push button start the car and leave it running and take the key with you and someone could drive the car away. I've had a discussion with a pal about this and proved it to him awhile back. Changing the battery wouldn't hurt but should under no circumstance cause the car to shut off if it's dead.
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    An intermittent problem like this is really tough to pin down in a dealership environment. Why? Because if your warranty is covering this, the technician isn't going to get paid to spend hours on your car trying to run down a problem he can't duplicate. If he's lucky, he might get paid 30 minutes of labor time to check out your car. And warranty time pays less than standard "customer pay" jobs. So the tech is incentivized to "take a shot at it" and then get on to the next paying job so he can actually make money that day. That's what you've been experiencing so far. If he can't duplicate your concern, it's a challenge. The dealership service department is not well-suited for this kind of repair, unfortunately.

    You're going to need some patience with this. The more specifics you give them the more it will help them. For example, the fact that your car won't crank immediately when the engine dies is a big deal. If you see any odd lights on your dash or anything unusual...that would also be helpful to them. If you know how to use a DVOM, checking a couple of voltages the next time it happens would also be helpful.

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    I would familiarize myself with Arizona's lemon law, perhaps ask the dealership what they think about it next time you are there. I would also start the car then remove both battery cables one at a time to see what happens. Loose battery cables sounds like a very low energy excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike View Post
    this afternoon was the 4th call to Mitsubishi roadside assistance for an emergency tow back to the dealer.
    today was sunday so the service dept is closed but i will be calling at 8am. at this point i am ready to contact the consumer advocate segment at the local tv station.

    i sent a message to mitsubishi usa through facebook

    "hi,

    We are wondering if you could help us regarding a 2015 Mitsubishi USA mirage (still under the factory warranty) that first broke down January 10th on the 101 freeway in Tempe. Normally we get it serviced at Big Two Mitsubishi in mesa, but because of the location of the breakdown, we had it towed to Mark Mitsubishi Scottsdale. Their diagnosis was that it was a gallon low on coolant (even thought big-two had topped it off during the last service 4.5 months earlier),, they sold me a coolant flush job and sent me on my way home (53477 miles),,,,

    Hours later it broke down while Kathy was driving it. I drove out to meet her and I attempted to drive it to Big-two (about 5 miles away from her work) while she drove my honda. The car broke down 2 more times within a few blocks and we had to call for a 2nd tow. Big two's 'diagnosis' after charging me for 3 hours diagnostic work was that a battery terminal was loose, and they sent me on my way home (53512 miles).. She was on a business trip in Cali until the 26th so the car was in the garage most of the time for the next week.

    Then jan 29th she was driving it, and it once again shuddered and just died on the road a mile and a half from our home. She was eventually able to get it restarted and made it back to our house. We called mitsubishi roadside assistance to have it towed from our house to Big-Two. This time their diagnosis was that the "other" battery terminal was loose. They said they test drove it 56 miles during the three days they had it there and had no problems and then sent it home with me with no charge this time (53662 miles).

    Since then she has been too afraid to drive it, but luckily i work from home, so i just let her borrow my honda all week. This afternoon she needed to visit her friend in Scottsdale so i let her take the honda. While i was on my way home from running errands in the mirage this afternoon, it shuddered and the rpms jumped as i was approaching a stoplight to make a left turn. It then died on me while waiting in that turn lane at power and main in mesa. i was able to restart it a minute later (after holding up the entire light) but then it died AGAIN before our next green turn arrow, and i held up traffic for yet another light. Eventually i was able to get it started and into the parking lot of a restaurant on the corner where were called mitsubishi roadside assistance to send tow truck #4.

    There is obviously something majorly wrong with this car, yet mitsubishi keeps sending us back home with an unsafe vehicle that continues to just die in the middle of traffic, and telling us it was some simple repair. Had we been traveling on the freeway it could have caused a serious accident. Mitsubishi keeps insisting that the engine is not throwing any error codes, but we're really beginning to doubt whether their mechanics have any diagnostic intuition other than being able to read a number off of a computer. After 4 breakdowns in only a few hundred miles, we are at our wit's end with this car. I have the mechanic Kyle Franklin at big two on video stating to his service manager Matt Acosta that he thinks there is some sort of internal engine failure, and that they need to call mitsubishi HQ to get authorization to tear the engine apart to find the problem. Yet that never happened and both times they just came up with a battery terminal excuse"

    attached is the service write-up after the 3rd tow,, "We tryed to are best abilities"
    i wouldn't trust these techs to tutor 2nd grade english.
    Bad throttle actuator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
    This is interesting:



    Neither the fuel issue or loose battery connection would explain that.
    I wonder if the rpm actually spikes or if the tach needle just bounces around. The one car I just fixed had the tach bounce all over the place but it had way more symptoms but it only started with one airbag light then multiplied into more lights and problems very quickly.
    I think I remember someone on this forum having problems with the plug at the throttle body after getting body work done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fummins View Post
    I wonder if the rpm actually spikes or if the tach needle just bounces around. The one car I just fixed had the tach bounce all over the place but it had way more symptoms but it only started with one airbag light then multiplied into more lights and problems very quickly.
    I think I remember someone on this forum having problems with the plug at the throttle body after getting body work done?

    The dealership service department HAS to have a portable scan tool for drivability issues. Hook it up, have the PDI or oil change kid, heck, even a service writer, drive it a few times a day until it acts up and throws some codes/data. Then it at least gives the driveability tech somewhere to start, without costing him diagnosing time, which we know flat rate shops hate to pay for. These places have no clue the PR damage stuff like this causes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01-7700 View Post
    I would also start the car then remove both battery cables one at a time to see what happens.
    Please do NOT do this


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