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    Engine swap?

    Anyone ever consider swapping in the 1.0 EcoBoost into the mirage for fun?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nades0323 View Post
    Anyone ever consider swapping in the 1.0 EcoBoost into the mirage for fun?
    Probably be easier to just find (or make) a turbo setup to fit the Mirage rather than put in an EcoBoost. But it is a fun thought!

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    Some cool/crazy swap ideas for the Mirage:

    Mitsubishi 6A10 - 1,6 V6 NA - 140 hp
    Honda B16B - 1,6 I4 NA - 185 hp
    Toyota 4A-GE Blacktop 20 Valve - 1,6 I4 NA - 165 hp
    Mazda 13B - Rotary NA - 150+ hp
    Triumph Speed Triple - 1050 cc I3 NA - 135-150 hp
    Daihatsu K3-VET - 1,3 I4 turbo - 130 hp
    Suzuki M16a - 1,6 I4 NA - 125-135 hp
    Suzuki K14C - 1,4 I4 turbo - 140 hp

    Just some crazy thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nades0323 View Post
    Anyone ever consider swapping in the 1.0 EcoBoost into the mirage for fun?
    The only motor to ever ever drop in the Mirage is the turbo 4 cylinder they have in the R5 Mirage. That one will fit snug, not sure my feelings on Ford products.

    I wish they would sell the R5 for a street legal version, but they won't of course.
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    I understand the Ford 1.0 EcoBoost suffers problems with valves. I don't see that it would be a good choice, but I'm sure some folks are big fans of the design.

    If you really wanted to get crazy, get a Smart car drivetrain and fit it to the rear. It might even fix alignment haha.


    There has been lots of discussion on this topic here on the forum. Check out the following threads for inspiration, and even chime in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    Cobrajet brought up an interesting point in the 2017 thread, that in order to put in a bigger engine it would change weight distribution. Brakes, chassis & suspension would need improving.

    But Mitsubishi said they improved the brakes by making them bigger. They also claimed improvements to the springs & dampers. Why, we're practically halfway there.

    So what else would be needed to put in a larger motor? Can anyone measure out the size of an Evo motor to compare to the Mirage engine bay? Would this really take some heavy fabricating?

    I know I'm not the first to think of this. I saw some pic of a Mirage here with its front-end dismantled.

    What else would you include? What size motor? AWD?

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    I had a funny idea on the way home - tell me what you all think.

    The Smart Fortwo used a version of this motor mounted at the rear axle. Wouldn't it be fun to do that for the Mirage? Two engines - front and rear.

    Just think of the balanced handling. Also, one engine could be used for efficient motoring, two for fun.

    PS: One wrecked Fortwo could be the donor for the transplant.
    PPS: Finally, it might just be rated for towing.


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    anyone looked into adopting it to Mirage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post

    I had a funny idea on the way home - tell me what you all think.

    The Smart Fortwo used a version of this motor mounted at the rear axle. Wouldn't it be fun to do that for the Mirage? Two engines - front and rear.

    Just think of the balanced handling. Also, one engine could be used for efficient motoring, two for fun.


    Citroen did this years ago to make the 2CV 4WD

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    Cooper build a couple of prototypes of twin engined Minis back in the day.
    They just used some standart drivetrains and put them in the back.
    And the first Toyota MR2s were basically a Corolla FWD drivetrains placed behind the seats.

    I think that a 3A92 and a smart drivetrain would very hard to synchronise. But 2 equal 3A92 drivetrains.
    A twin engine Mirage could be a fun car and with two 3A92s also economically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobrajet View Post
    Probably be easier to just find (or make) a turbo setup to fit the Mirage rather than put in an EcoBoost. But it is a fun thought!
    I have researched doing this but the net gain was like 30 hp, and I feel the cost difference wouldn’t be worth it.

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    The only issue they have are carbon build up, but that’ss well over 100k before the issue becomes somthing to look into, if I can cram an EcoBoost into the mirage I’ll figure out how to clean the valves lol!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nades0323 View Post
    Anyone ever consider swapping in the 1.0 EcoBoost into the mirage for fun?
    Even more fun is the fact the 2000 Honda Insight has the same transmission spline as a Mirage

    Lean Burn IMA Mirage



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