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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    How about some fuel system treatment like Techron?
    I would be wary of putting more liquid mystery in friend's Mirage, if it's simply a fuel pump issue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dspace9 View Post
    Fuel pump maybe? You should filll your Mirage with 87 Octane. High octane is for performance cars. That's what the owner's manual recommends.

    Not sure if pumping high octane gas in your Mirage for a few years does anything, perhaps this.
    It's possible that isn't available there. When I was there, 97 was the minimum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspace9 View Post
    I would be wary of putting more liquid mystery in friend's Mirage, if it's simply a fuel pump issue.
    It's not a mystery. It's a well respected fuel system cleaner. Perhaps you didn't follow the link to the product page to learn more about it?

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2015 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 49.9 mpg (US) ... 21.2 km/L ... 4.7 L/100 km ... 59.9 mpg (Imp)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    It's not a mystery. It's a well respected fuel system cleaner. Perhaps you didn't follow the link to the product page to learn more about it?
    Exactly. When I worked at a Hyundai/ Kia dealership, this was a recommended from the Manufacturer. This is not snake oil in the least. Good recommendation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex1a1f View Post
    Exactly. When I worked at a Hyundai/ Kia dealership, this was a recommended from the Manufacturer. This is not snake oil in the least. Good recommendation.
    I believe Stevedmc has used it with good results. He was having issues also but adding a bottle of Techron cleared his problems.

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2015 Mirage ES 1.2 automatic: 40.4 mpg (US) ... 17.2 km/L ... 5.8 L/100 km ... 48.5 mpg (Imp)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    It's not a mystery. It's a well respected fuel system cleaner. Perhaps you didn't follow the link to the product page to learn more about it?
    I wouldn't assume that, and it's very likely a fuel pump issue. I'm not a warring man, but this is 3 vs. 1. And it's probably a fuel pump issue. I.e. Mechanical. Additives might make things worse.

    Like adding 92 octane gas in the tank. (address that Eggman)
    I'm not a mechanic, pretty sure you aint' either eggman.
    Last edited by dspace9; 04-24-2019 at 07:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex1a1f View Post
    Exactly. When I worked at a Hyundai/ Kia dealership, this was a recommended from the Manufacturer. This is not snake oil in the least. Good recommendation.
    It's the fuel pump. Just wait.

    Years of putting high octane gas into an economy car, well I think the result is:
    Last edited by dspace9; 04-24-2019 at 07:44 PM.

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    ^ umm you do realise that they rate their gas differently overseas. I didn't know that til I read about it on this forum. And using high octane won't gunk up anything. From what I've seen the lower octane fuel with ethanol is less desirable. And for snake oil, our Kia says to use "kia brand" fuel injector treatment every oil change or so but I believe it's cause it has direct injection. I just pour whatever injector cleaner I have on the shelf. I don't feel injector cleaner is like transmission fix in a bottle or engine sealer in a can. Most as seen on tv fixes are junk though. I use lifter cleaner on old mazda 2.2L all the time if they get a sticky lifter. Works great.

    I pour a little 2 stroke oil in my old diesel once in a while, it's said to add a little lubricity that was taken out when they switched to ultra low sulfur diesel. Whether it helps or not I don't know? Haven't had any problems yet though.

    I stole this from the google: In Europe, the octane rating on the pump is simply the RON figure. America, by contrast, uses the average of the RON and the MON figures, called the AKI (anti-knock index). Thus, 97 octane “super unleaded” in Britain is roughly equivalent to 91 octane premium in the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fummins View Post
    ^ umm
    Thus, 97 octane “super unleaded” in Britain is roughly equivalent to 91 octane premium in the United States.
    Listen to buddy's you tube vid, sure sounds like the fuel pump. 91 is too high compared to the recommended 87. I never called it snake oil but it seems like a bandaid solution to the mechanical issue buddy is having. Funny how people corral over this.

    We'll see if might is right, when buddy gets his fuel pump replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dspace9 View Post
    Fuel pump maybe? You should filll your Mirage with 87 Octane. High octane is for performance cars. That's what the owner's manual recommends.

    Not sure if pumping high octane gas in your Mirage for a few years does anything, perhaps this.
    Fuels are rated/sold differently in Europe & other parts of the world. An 87 octane may not exist there? At least, it would be rated differently. A 97 octane in other parts of the world would be a 91 octane here for us.



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