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    All our cars are optioned exactly the same. All cvt, all white and all es plus'.
    Right now the highest mileage original one has nearly 290000kms/180000miles on it. From my experience, once the fluid is black in these cars it's ready to die. Fluid changes will only prolong the inevitable.

    This is the lowest mileage cvt I've seen with the input bearing pile up. The other ones had 300 and only 229k kms. We did have one with under 100k kms iirc that just made a whining/howling noise that was eventually covered under warranty. The fluid looked fine in that one.
    I don't know the service history on this one with 133?ish k km other than it had the same sounding symptoms months ago and a different dealer replaced the fluid and kicked it out the door. The car got sent out here shortly after that. This one will still drive fine sometimes but wants to stall sometimes while coming to a stop. There is no flashing D or check engine light. Basically you'd never know there was a problem til it started stalling or wanting to runaway on you like it's in direct drive. And it's basically toast by then. Might be able to pull the thing apart and replace the input shaft that looks like it comes with new bearings. But there's a good chance too much metal ran though the valve body and all the other magical valves that have tight tolerances. I'd give it a try though before spending $4+k on a new one. Or if I had way too much time on my hands just pull the cvt and replace the part before any signs of failure. It's really the only weak link I've seen so far. The belt and pulleys didn't look worn out on the ones I looked at. At least I don't think so?

    I should probably start dropping the pans and replacing more fluid at a time in these things to see if they'll last longer. Or before long we'll end up with dozens of high mileage Mirage's that don't move.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fummins View Post
    All our cars are optioned exactly the same. All cvt, all white and all es plus'.
    Right now the highest mileage original one has nearly 290000kms/180000miles on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fummins View Post
    Or if I had way too much time on my hands just pull the cvt and replace the part before any signs of failure. It's really the only weak link I've seen so far. The belt and pulleys didn't look worn out on the ones I looked at. At least I don't think so?

    I should probably start dropping the pans and replacing more fluid at a time in these things to see if they'll last longer. Or before long we'll end up with dozens of high mileage Mirage's that don't move.
    Let's say this is the only weak link. How much time would it take to replace this particular part in a Mirage CVT?

    Have to believe this particular part would be much cheaper than an entire CVT (new or used)?

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    Just don't drive it, then it should last til the seals dry up and it pukes the fluid out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fummins View Post
    Just don't drive it, then it should last til the seals dry up and it pukes the fluid out.
    Not really my worry. I've never owned a vehicle that didn't have a manual transmission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Let's say this is the only weak link. How much time would it take to replace this particular part in a Mirage CVT?

    Have to believe this particular part would be much cheaper than an entire CVT (new or used)?
    I can't recall exactly how much a new shaft cost, maybe around $150-200. You'd have to pull the transmission then spend maybe an hour or so splitting the case open and replacing the shaft. IIRC it's not burried too deep in there.

    At this point I'd only buy a Mitsubishi if they took off a huge chunk off the price in exchange for zero warranty.
    Getting warranty work done is a joke. I'd rather just deal with repairs myself. If I blow up an engine or transmission I would either pay a shop to replace it or just do it myself. I can guarantee it'd be finished before Mitsubishi would even decide whether they'll cover it under warranty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fummins View Post
    I can't recall exactly how much a new shaft cost, maybe around $150-200. You'd have to pull the transmission then spend maybe an hour or so splitting the case open and replacing the shaft. IIRC it's not burried too deep in there.

    At this point I'd only buy a Mitsubishi if they took off a huge chunk off the price in exchange for zero warranty.
    Getting warranty work done is a joke. I'd rather just deal with repairs myself. If I blow up an engine or transmission I would either pay a shop to replace it or just do it myself. I can guarantee it'd be finished before Mitsubishi would even decide whether they'll cover it under warranty.
    I wont lie, it was a relief when my ride ran out of warranty oddly enough. No more worrying about getting it void going to ma and pa shops.

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    Ridiculous Update:
    So now Mitsubishi wants records of having 2 transmission flushes done. This is getting retarded. How do they expect a transmission flush to be done and why? There is no mention of that needing to be done anywhere in the crapy generic warranty and maintenance manual. At least not that I remember seeing. Just states under severe to replace transmission fluid every 48k kms. I can't remember where I saw the part saying to drain and refill, if dirty do again til clean.. For the regular service schedule, it doesn't even state anywhere about needing a transmission flush. Or I'm blind and skipped that part?

    The dealer refused to even look up transmission filters and said only EVO's had filters. Two or three different times. Bad Mitsubishi dealer, Bad!

    I can see not covering warranty if there are no service records for fluid changes. But it's been almost a week now. I'm not sure if there are any records for this car. It was serviced elsewhere. Either way I would have liked to have known which way this is going by now. Car could have been back on the road within a day had I just replaced it from from the beginning. Now it's gonna sit on the hoist for another 11 days minimum. Chances are I'll have a pile of stuff to catch up on when I get back from holidays so maybe this car will be going again by August 2nd?

    I'm done crying now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fummins View Post
    Ridiculous Update:
    So now Mitsubishi wants records of having 2 transmission flushes done. This is getting retarded. How do they expect a transmission flush to be done and why? There is no mention of that needing to be done anywhere in the crapy generic warranty and maintenance manual. At least not that I remember seeing. Just states under severe to replace transmission fluid every 48k kms. I can't remember where I saw the part saying to drain and refill, if dirty do again til clean.. For the regular service schedule, it doesn't even state anywhere about needing a transmission flush. Or I'm blind and skipped that part?

    The dealer refused to even look up transmission filters and said only EVO's had filters. Two or three different times. Bad Mitsubishi dealer, Bad!

    I can see not covering warranty if there are no service records for fluid changes. But it's been almost a week now. I'm not sure if there are any records for this car. It was serviced elsewhere. Either way I would have liked to have known which way this is going by now. Car could have been back on the road within a day had I just replaced it from from the beginning. Now it's gonna sit on the hoist for another 11 days minimum. Chances are I'll have a pile of stuff to catch up on when I get back from holidays so maybe this car will be going again by August 2nd?

    I'm done crying now
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