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    Get your beer tires before they're all gone

    https://www.kijiji.ca/v-tires-rims/k...els/1470271074

    What kind of screwball setup is this dood running?


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    Wow 145. Imagine the MPG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallythacker View Post
    https://www.kijiji.ca/v-tires-rims/k...els/1470271074

    What kind of screwball setup is this dood running?
    Those are for an i-MiEV which runs a different width front to rear (I'm pretty sure the fronts are narrower.)

    Those should fit right on the Mirage and would be fun to try. Hard to find. I'm surprised to see them.

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    Ok, I'm going to make an offer on them. The weirdness factor is just too cool to pass up. Do I put the small tires up front?

    You can't rotate these tires if they are directional.

    Ok, offer made. Now to see if the seller responds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallythacker View Post
    Do I put the small tires up front?
    I would put the wider tires up front, but maybe someone who knows what they are talking about (basic) can chime in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    I would put the wider tires up front, but maybe someone who knows what they are talking about (basic) can chime in.
    wider tires in front for dry conditions narrow for winter. that was my understanding

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    Quote Originally Posted by benwerks View Post
    wider tires in front for dry conditions narrow for winter. that was my understanding
    The i-MiEV uses wider in the back presumably because that is where the majority of the weight is (drive/traction motor is part of the rear axle assembly). I suggest the wider tires for the front of the Mirage for the same rationale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallythacker View Post
    https://www.kijiji.ca/v-tires-rims/k...els/1470271074

    What kind of screwball setup is this dood running?
    Just speaking for myself - I would use the 145/65-15 tires any time of the year (especially winter), because they have an outside diameter of 22.4" (which is the same as a 165/65-14 factory tire).

    I would not buy or put 175/60-15 tires on my Mirage, because they have an outside diameter of 24.6". That's almost a 9% variance in outside tire diameter. Most tire experts (not claiming to be one) recommend staying within 3% variance in tire sizes. 9% is three times the recommended difference of 3%.

    I realize these larger tires may work, but I wouldn't do that to my small economy car. I don't like wearing oversize boots on my feet either!

    165/65-14 (22.4") & 175/55-15 (22.6") are factory stock sizes. I would feel comfortable using 175/65-14 & 185/55-15 tires sizes, because they are more popular in the States. These tires are 23" in outside diameter, which is a 3% variance.

    My Mirage will only see 165/65-14 (& maybe 175/65-14) tires, because I have zero interest in giving up my 14" steel rims.

    We had our first snow day (school cancelled) this past Wednesday. I use that time off to put my Nokian Nordman 7 snow tires up front, & I moved my Federal SS657 to the rear. The factory Dunlop tires were pulled off for the winter. Next fall, I plan on replacing the Dunlop tire (hoping to get one more summer out of them) with a pair of Vredestein Quatrac 5 tires. I expect them to be a good all-season winter tire to run on the rear axle of my Mirage during the winter months.

    I am using Nordman 7, Federal SS657, & Vredestein Quatrac 5 tires, because they all come in a 165/65-14 tire size. Lack of more choices makes shopping easier. I wouldn't rule out 165/65-14 Nexen tires in the future, however.
    Last edited by Mark; 11-09-2019 at 11:17 PM.

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    Good point Mark. Just because it will bolt up doesn't mean all's well.

    I wonder how that will affect other systems on the Mirage, such as ABS, Traction Control, et al.

    Looks like ol' Wallythacker will let us know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirageman38 View Post
    Wow 145. Imagine the MPG.
    My 1990 Ford Festiva had 145SR12 tires. That car never had snow tires, but the car was amazing in snow. I just made sure I had newer tires on during the winter months, and used my older tires during the summer months.

    Other cars (mainly a 1989 Plymouth Colt Wagon & later a 1997 VW Golf) I had during this same time period weren't as good in snow. Even though they were heavier cars, their wider tires hindered them. The VW Golf was worthless climbing our winter ridge road without snow tires, & even with snow tires it didn't do as well as the Festiva with its tiny 145SR12 tires.

    There were times the Colt Wagon & Golf needed tire chains to make it home. That was never the case with the Festiva (curb weight was 1,713 pounds). I am just sharing my life experiences. I deal with ridge roads dally! I love living in the "Driftless Region" of SW Wisconsin.

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