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    Fuel prices in Europe

    Prices are for one litre, otherwise no comment from me.


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    I'm always amused to hear people on this side of the pond complain about the price of gas.

    We got it so easy, we just don't see it.

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    Wow! At least European prices are for 95 octane.
    In the future our energy prices will also include a CO2 surcharge, and sales tax on top of it all. They are talking about €60.- to €120.- per single ton of CO2...

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    Quote Originally Posted by foama View Post
    Wow! At least European prices are for 95 octane.
    Yes, but our prices are in euros, and not in Canadian dollars.
    In the future our energy prices will also include a CO2 surcharge, and sales tax on top of it all. They are talking about €60.- to €120.- per single ton of CO2...
    One litre of petrol equals about 2400 grams of CO2. So at €120/1000kg about 29 cents per litre will be added. Plus VAT, I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Wolf View Post
    Yes, but our prices are in euros, and not in Canadian dollars.

    One litre of petrol equals about 2400 grams of CO2. So at €120/1000kg about 29 cents per litre will be added. Plus VAT, I suppose.
    My favorite take away from all of this is the fact that tax is being charged on tax! It's bad enough that the price of the underlying commodity is so high when the world is awash in oil, it really is, but it's just blatant theft for them to have multiple layers of tax based on the prior level's value after it has tax applied!

    We should should take our pitchforks and lanterns and revolt but we're too distracted watching the latest Dancing with the Stars...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallythacker View Post
    My favorite take away from all of this is the fact that tax is being charged on tax! It's bad enough that the price of the underlying commodity is so high when the world is awash in oil, it really is, but it's just blatant theft for them to have multiple layers of tax based on the prior level's value after it has tax applied!

    We should should take our pitchforks and lanterns and revolt but we're too distracted watching the latest Dancing with the Stars...
    No Dr. Phil all the way, and the most dramatic episodes are Thursdays and Fridays. The punk kid with the made up accent to sound tough. Compelling TV.

    It's not just gas but driving 5 hours to work or to work out, or anything. Drive drive all we do is drive. We drive to exercise. It does seem silly when you step back for a moment. I think the thing is Canada and the USA infrastructure is 95% car-based.

    Taxes on taxes as well --even your paycheque gets taxed, then you go buy smarties at the corner store with your leftovers ---and you get taxed on your income-taxed income with HST. Then the bank charges you to have your money sit in their bank. Withdraw your retirement savings!? Big tax grab right there of your hard earned money. Then EVERY government of EVERY political stripe wastes YOUR money and tells you what to do. sorry haha the passion

    The banks make lots of me, a mortgage even at a low rate and small mortgage compared to 90% of people my age.. it's still a scam, so the cheaper the house the better. No need to show off how much money goes to interest and that is wasteful unless you got money to burn

    I like the pitchfork peasant rebellion idea, but maybe that is too far
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    Quote Originally Posted by foama View Post
    Wow! At least European prices are for 95 octane.
    In the future our energy prices will also include a CO2 surcharge, and sales tax on top of it all. They are talking about €60.- to €120.- per single ton of CO2...
    95 EU Octane IS 87 US. Same ****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foama View Post
    Prices are for one litre, otherwise no comment from me.


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    That translates to $2.36/L Canadian for your regular octane, from yesterday's Euro/Canadian dollar currency price. Ouch. Vancouver's $1.60+/L doesn't seem so bad.

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    If you calculate €1,62 per Litre, plus 36 Euro-cent for CO2 surcharge plus additional sales tax, it would be €1.98 per Litre. Times 3.8 = one US gallon, = €7.52 per US gallon, in US $ that would be roughly
    $6.70 US per gallon.

    You know now why there are so many small economical cars available in Europe?

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