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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Fuel View Post
    The list price of 1 OEM Mirage brake drum is now $332.
    Wow that reminds me of replacement CVT pricing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    Wow that reminds me of replacement CVT pricing.
    Those OEM drums are spendy, but they do at least come complete. Drum, ABS ring, studs, bearing. Many aftermarket drums come bare. Replacement drums shouldn't ever be necessary unless you let them go metal-to-metal, as both the OP and I did.

    The problem is there are no 'squealer clips' on the rear shoes to let you know when they are close to gone. You gotta remember to check 'em every so often. Once they start making noise it's too late.

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    OK, I just replaced my rear brakes and am now dealing with this nonsense. So I am getting the idea that there is a magnet in the factory drums that isn't in the aftermarkets?

    I let them get metal on metal. Can they be turned and reinstalled?

    Conor

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwatkin View Post
    I let them get metal on metal. Can they be turned and reinstalled?
    You should be able to get them turned...unless they are scored up badly. If they've been metal-on-metal for awhile, you may not have enough material left to machine safely.

    You can buy bare drums and swap over your wheel studs, ABS rings and wheel bearings to them. That's too much work for me. If/when I need rear drums, I will buy them as a complete assembly because they aren't that expensive. This guy bought complete rear drum assemblies from Rockauto and they came ready to bolt on. He said they were decent quality.

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    How do you pull the ABS rings?

    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Fuel View Post
    You should be able to get them turned...unless they are scored up badly. If they've been metal-on-metal for awhile, you may not have enough material left to machine safely.

    You can buy bare drums and swap over your wheel studs, ABS rings and wheel bearings to them. That's too much work for me. If/when I need rear drums, I will buy them as a complete assembly because they aren't that expensive. This guy bought complete rear drum assemblies from Rockauto and they came ready to bolt on. He said they were decent quality.
    I have already done all the work but the ABS rings. How do you pull these? I may look at having the originals turned as they don't look horrid.

    Thanks,

    Conor

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    Since the old drums are off

    Quote Originally Posted by cwatkin View Post
    I have already done all the work but the ABS rings. How do you pull these? I may look at having the originals turned as they don't look horrid.

    Thanks,

    Conor
    I am going to see if this works. It is a different car but I am guessing it is the same. https://youtu.be/nBJ32GAK-Dw

    Next time I will just buy a complete drum but swapping the bearing and studs was easy with the correct press.

    Conor

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwatkin View Post
    I am going to see if this works. It is a different car but I am guessing it is the same. https://youtu.be/nBJ32GAK-Dw

    Next time I will just buy a complete drum but swapping the bearing and studs was easy with the correct press.

    Conor
    Well, I got it done. The magnetic rings were all dirty and I couldn't tell they were a separate piece. They are just pressed on so I pried them off and then pressed them back onto the new drums by tapping on a block of wood. No more ABS or traction control issues!

    Conor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Fuel View Post
    You should be able to get them turned...unless they are scored up badly. If they've been metal-on-metal for awhile, you may not have enough material left to machine safely.

    You can buy bare drums and swap over your wheel studs, ABS rings and wheel bearings to them. That's too much work for me. If/when I need rear drums, I will buy them as a complete assembly because they aren't that expensive. This guy bought complete rear drum assemblies from Rockauto and they came ready to bolt on. He said they were decent quality.
    Factory inside diameter for the rear drums is 180mm...service limit is only 181mm. Clearly there is not much room for turning these on a lathe. The damage would have to be very minor, I think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobrajet View Post
    Factory inside diameter for the rear drums is 180mm...service limit is only 181mm.
    Wow...I didn't realize that.

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    I doubt mine can be turned then

    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Fuel View Post
    Wow...I didn't realize that.
    I doubt mine can be turned based on the limits so am glad I went ahead and swapped the ABS rings. We will see how it drives today with new brakes.

    Conor



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