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    165/65r14 Tire Discussion

    This is a thread devoted to 165/65r14 tires that are sold in the States.
    Unlike some countries, we are not blessed with many 165/65r14 tire options.

    Suggestions for this thread -

    1. If you find an incorrect/missing tire fact, please post it. I will update/change the list.
    FYI - It’s not uncommon for winter tires to lack a UTQG or mileage warranty.

    2. If someone posts a short comment (one or two line) about a tire, I will try to add their short comment to that listed tire.

    3. If you feel another 165/65r14 tires should be added to the list, please provide whatever information you can. I will do my best to edit the second post as time goes on.

    4. I will attempt to place tires in one of three categories (all-season, all-weather, or dedicated snow/winter tire).

    5. 175/65r14 tires (23”) are probably the most common upgrade to 165/65r14 factory tires (22.4”), & the diameter variance is 2.7%
    Likewise, 185/55r15 tires (23”) are probably the most common upgrade to 175/55r15 factory tires (22.6”), & the diameter variance is 1.8%.
    This thread is devoted to 165/65r14 tires.

    6. Comparing apples to apples -
    A 165/65r14 Kumho Solus TA31 tire (60,000 mileage warranty) is 14.2 pounds.
    A 185/55r15 Kumho Solus TA31 tire (60,000 mileage warranty) is 17.8 pounds.
    A larger tire = more weight. Some of that can be countered by lightweight rims, but a wider 15" rim will most likely weigh more than a narrower 14" rim made of the same material/design.

    7. If you have decided to move on from 165/65r14 factory size tires & not look back, this is probably not the thread for you.

    The load/speed rating, UTQG*, maximum psi, tread depth, tire weight, approved rim width, tire diameter, section width**, mileage warranty, & country of origin will be listed for each tire.

    load/speed ratings
    78 - 937 pounds
    79 - 963 pounds
    S - 112 mph
    T - 118 mph

    * UTQG - "Uniform Tire Quality Grading". A system developed by the Department of Transportation, which helps consumers compare and rate tires on tread wear, traction, and temperature.
    https://townfairtire.com/information...0(C)%20average.

    ** section width when mounted on 5" wide rims

    See post #2 for current list of tires -


    Last edited by Mark; 07-13-2020 at 03:37 AM.

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    Tire Name & load/speed rating
    UTQG*, max. psi, tread depth, tire weight, approved rims, tire diameter, section width**, mileage warranty, country of origin, & comments.

    load/speed ratings
    78 - 937 pounds
    79 - 963 pounds
    S - 112 mph
    T - 118 mph

    * UTQG (treadwear/traction/temperature ratings)
    ** section width when mounted on 5" wide rims

    All-Season Tires

    Kumho Solus TA51a 79T (all-season) -
    640AA, 51 psi, 10/32”, 14 lbs, 22.4”, 4.5 - 6” rims, 6.7”**, 75,000 miles, Korea
    Comments:

    Kumho Solus TA31 79T (all-season) -
    500AA, 44 psi, 9.5/32”, 14.2 lbs, 22.4”, 4.5 - 6” rims, 6.7”**, 60,000 miles, Korea
    Comments:


    Nexen NPriz AH5 79T (all-season) -
    460AA, 51 psi, 9/32", 13 lbs, 22.4", 4.5 - 6” rims, 6.7**, 50,000 miles, Korea
    Comments:


    Federal SS657 79T (all-season) -
    420AA, 44 psi, 10/32”, 14.7 lbs, 22.4”, 4.5 - 6” rims, 6.3”**, 40,000 miles, Taiwan
    Comments:


    Falken Sincera SN250A A/S 79S BSW
    320BB, 51 psi, 9/32nd", 13 lbs., 22.4"
    Comments:
    These are not the 75,000-80,000 mile warranty tires. The extra "A" attached to the name means something. 2021 OEM Mirage tires.


    Dunlop Enasave 01 A/S 79S (all-season) - factory stock LRR tire
    340AB, 44 psi, 9/32”, 13 lbs, 22.4”, 4.5 - 6” rims, 6.7”**, ?? miles, Thailand
    Comments:
    The high cost & possible sidewall issues concern me, but I don't mind using them up during the summer months. Can't argue that their LRR properties are quite good!


    Bridgestone Potenza RE92 78S (all-season) - LRR tire that has been around for a long time
    260AB, 44 psi, 9/32”, 13 lbs, 22.5”, 4.5 - 6” rims, 6.5”**, 40,000 miles, Japan
    Comments:


    Federal Formoza GIO 79T (all-season) - LRR claim ?
    420AA, 44 psi, 8/32”, 13.6 lbs, 22.6”, 4.5 - 6” rims, 6.6”**, 35,000 miles, Taiwan
    Comments:




    All-Weather Tires

    Vredestein Quatrac 5 79T (all-weather) -
    400AA, 51 psi, 10/32”, 12 lbs, 22.8”, 4.5 - 6” rims, 7”**, 40,000 miles, Netherlands
    Comments:


    Kumho Solus HA31 79T (all-weather) - may be hard to find
    420AA, 44 psi, 11.3/32”, ?? lbs, 22.4”, 4.5 - 6” rims, 6.7”**, ?? miles, Korea?
    Comments:



    Snow/Winter Tires

    Dunlop Winter Maxx WM02 79T (winter/snow tire) no stud option
    None*, 44 psi, 11/32”, 14 lbs, 23”, 4.5 - 6” rims, 7”**, ?? miles, Japan
    Comments:


    Nokian Nordman 7 79T (winter/snow tire) non-studded or studded
    None*, 47 psi, 13.1/32”, 14.1 lbs, 22.4”, 4.5 - 6” rims, 6.7”**, ?? miles, Russia
    Comments:


    Kumho Solus Wintercraft Ice Wi31 79T (winter/snow tire) - studded, but may be hard to find
    None*, 44 psi, 12.1/32”, 15.7 lbs, 4.5 - 6” rims, 6.7”**, ?? miles, Korea?
    Comments:


    Federal Himalaya Kattura 79T (winter/snow tire) - non-studded
    None*, 44 psi, 10/32", 15.9 lbs., 22.6", 4.5" - 6" rims, 6.6"**, ?? miles, origin??
    Comments:
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    Added Federal Himalaya Kattura snow tires to the list of 165/65r14 tire options in the States.

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    The only readily available options are Dunlop Ensave (super expensive for a 40,000 mile tire) and the Federal tires that are only avail from Walmart (free shipping - just purchased a set of 4). Does anyone make a 60,000 or 70,000 mile tire for the Mirage? I couldn't find one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frugal Fun View Post
    Does anyone make a 60,000 or 70,000 mile tire for the Mirage? I couldn't find one.
    In the first post of this thread, Mark mentions this tire:

    Kumho Solus TA31 79T (all-season) -
    500AA*, 44 psi, 9.5/32”, 14.2 lbs, 22.4”, 4.5 - 6” rims, 6.7”**, 60,000 miles, Korea

    If you go up to a 175-65-14, the Faulken Sincera SN250 A/S has an 80,000 mile treadwear rating. But that's not a 165-65-14.
    Last edited by Top_Fuel; 10-28-2020 at 02:51 AM.

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    I can wholeheartedly endorse the Federal SS657. Great tire that does everything better than the Enasaves except maybe for a small hit in fuel economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobrajet View Post
    I can wholeheartedly endorse the Federal SS657. Great tire that does everything better than the Enasaves except maybe for a small hit in fuel economy.
    I agree. Pretty quiet and great in the rain also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frugal Fun View Post
    The only readily available options are Dunlop Ensave (super expensive for a 40,000 mile tire) and the Federal tires that are only avail from Walmart (free shipping - just purchased a set of 4). Does anyone make a 60,000 or 70,000 mile tire for the Mirage? I couldn't find one.
    Like Top Fuel has pointed out - Kumho makes a 60,000 mile warranty 165/65r14 tire. I notice tirerack.com has started to carry them recently.

    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireS...earDiameter=14

    Walmart has them listed for $52/tire, but out-of-stock.

    My 2017 Mirage is near 40,000 miles, & I have a pair of -

    Dunlop Enasaves (factory originals) - using them up during the summer months
    Federal SS657 - also using them up during the summer months
    Nexen N'Priz AH5 - brand new going on the rear this winter & will replace the Enasave tires above in the future
    Nokian Nordman 7 - Since December of 2017, these have been my front tires during the winter months

    For the money, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the Federal SS657 tires. They have been on my Mirage for the past 25,000 miles (summer & winter). I will pull them off this coming winter & use them some more next summer.

    I wouldn't hesitate to try the Kumho Solus TA31 tires some day, too. I also want to try the Vredestein Quatrac 5. When my Dunlop tires are done, I may try the Quatrac 5 next. The Quatrac 5 may compliment my Nokian snow tires nicely during the winter months.

    I only have 8 steel rims. I can't test them all!

    If the Federal SS657 are inflated well, I don't think there's much difference in the area of mpg verses the Dunlop. Dunlop Enasave tires are over priced in my opinion, & I had one fail @ 15,000 miles.

    There are several brand names that I am not familiar with that offer 165/65r14 options, too. Unless someone speaks out for one of those, I would stick with Federal, Nexen, & Kumho. Dunlop Winter Maxx 2 & Nokian Nordman 7 aren't bad snow tire options. The Nordman 7 can be bought studded or non-studded. Federal has a new snow tire offering that I wouldn't hesitate to try, too.

    Tires-easy.com, tirerack.com, walmart.com, & simpletire.com are good places to check for available 165/65r14 tire options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post

    There are several brand names that I am not familiar with that offer 165/65r14 options, too. Unless someone speaks out for one of those, I would stick with Federal, Nexen, & Kumho.
    I am past due for tires all the way around. Getting ready to pull the trigger on 4 Nexen AH5, but I'm not familiar with them. Cheaper than potenza and ensaves. Whats been your experience with them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicPunk View Post
    I am past due for tires all the way around. Getting ready to pull the trigger on 4 Nexen AH5, but I'm not familiar with them. Cheaper than potenza and ensaves. Whats been your experience with them?
    I have no experience with Nexen tires other than I have a new pair that I am putting on the rear of my Mirage this winter. I bought them when tires-easy.com had them priced @$50/tire this summer. Most of the time, they seem to be around $70/tire. I thought for $50/tire I would try them. Initial appearance doesn't seem all that different than Federal tires, but they do have a 50,000 warranty.

    "Nexen Tire Corporation (Korean: 넥센타이어) is a tire manufacturer headquartered in Yangsan, South Gyeongsang Province and Seoul in South Korea. Established in 1942 under the name, Heung-A Tire Company, Nexen Tire Co. has served the industry for the past 71 years."

    Given the quote above, Nexen would be common tires on Hyundai & KIA vehicles.

    Just a fyi - "There are only two major tire brands that are both based in and manufactured in the USA: Goodyear and Cooper." Aug 24, 2020

    I like Cooper tires, but they don't sell 165/65r14 tires.



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