Depends on how far you drive at a time I guess. I looked up some ioniq phev numbers on fuelly, some vary between 100-250mpg.
I found a 2012 volt that seemed to get crazy mileage that fuelly didn't seem to believe 5400miles used 8 gallons lol https://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet...ostinwi/381637 654mpg?
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View my fuel log 2014 Mirage SE wussie cvt edition. 1.2 automatic: 37.7 mpg (US) ... 16.0 km/L ... 6.2 L/100 km ... 45.3 mpg (Imp)
MirageRally (12-03-2020)
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View my fuel log 2014 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 62.4 mpg (US) ... 26.5 km/L ... 3.8 L/100 km ... 74.9 mpg (Imp)
What in the world, that's some insane mileage from the Volts. Haha.
As for MPGs, I guess it just depends how much Mitsu invests on a PHEV Mirage too. I'm assuming the MPGs would be around what a Prius gets if the Mirage ever went with a PHEV model. Toyota has really refined the Prius too so I think a Mirage PHEV would take some work (alot of work) to have it compete next to a Prius.
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View my fuel log 2015 Mirage DE 1.2 manual: 43.4 mpg (US) ... 18.5 km/L ... 5.4 L/100 km ... 52.2 mpg (Imp)
l don't want to deal with the hybrid system "if" it has a problem...besides all new cars now have the "safety shield" tech in them...more things to break IMO. Want reliable? Get the older Toyotas that don't have the safety stuff. Unfortunately l won't have that option down the road.
Interests: Rallying/Drifting/Cars/Motorcycles
I have an aunt who has an '09 camry hybrid with close to 200k miles. She has had to replace battery once within the past year or two. Other than that, no major issues. Also, Toyo has learned between 09 and now so I'm sure it's only better.
I'd use the AWD for [mild] offroad applications.
I'd use the AWD for [mild] offroad applications.
This vehicle will be a long-term (see: next 10-15yrs) and the wife and I are planning a kid sometime in the next 5-6yrs. By then the vehicle will be paid off and ready for family duties.
EDIT: After re-reading this, I feel like the Rav4 may be the better sell as there are a few unknowns on the Outlander PHEV front. Not much reliability as much as cost of maintenance in the future. Because Toyo has been in the hybrid game for so long, it's easier to predict future maintenance cost.
Between the mirage and the TT, I'm covered on the 'sports car' end of the spectrum. My daily commute is over both the Rav4 and Outlander PHEV range so I'll be using the PHEV just for a "boost" in MPG.
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The days of DIY repairs are nearing the end because of more and more electronics and programming. Just the way things will be, I guess.
I hope the Mirage doesn't go hybrid, instead i hope they refine it and the 3a92 further to squeeze out more MPGs. The Mirage being an entry level subcompact would just become more complex and expensive than it already is. Keep it simple and priced low for the buyers who can't or don't want to spend the extra money. Add the hybrid stuff to the SUVs as those shoppers are naturally looking and willing to spend more money anyways. SUVs with their okay fuel economy would benefit most from the hybrid stuff. Keep making the Mirage the most affordable most fuel efficient non-hybrid in your lineup. Otherwise it'll basically become the now discontinued Prius C. If Toyota couldn't hack a hybrid subcompact what chances does Mitsubishi have? (Well at least here in the states)
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I have to agree with this. Small electrified vehicles (See: Prius C, Spark EV, MBW i3) have already failed.
I'd rather Mitsu refine the mirage rather than hybridize it. Give the mirage a proper 6MT, suspension, +20HP, blind spot monitor, and smart cruise control, priced under $15k and I'll pick up a 2nd one tomorrow.
There was a thread about it recently