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    Quote Originally Posted by dspace9 View Post
    Kia's are way better than the first generation Kia's. My sister had one of the first ones, 2000 or 20001 maybe, with an automatic and it was a slow car. But then her 2006 Kia Rio ? was really nice and nimble but she traded it in. Not sure why.
    I had a 1995 Sportage back in the late 1990s. Man, you wanna talk about 'an early Kia'. That thing didn't even have a Kia engine in it. It had the same 2.0 that Mazda put in the B2000 pickups back in the 1980s. Matter of fact, it didn't even have any airbags.

    Reliable rig, but I could never keep a set of auto-locking hubs in it for very long. They would always fail, and I think I went through about three sets.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge Aries K View Post
    Well, a few things. Leather wrapped wheel and shifter, fog lights, turn signal repeaters on the side mirrors, chrome cluster garnish, and that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I'm exhausted this morning...
    ...nicer seat fabric, 6-way adjustable driver's seat, steering wheel audio controls, cruise control, silver or chrome trim on the dash vents and radio/climate controls, chrome front interior door handles, integrated Bluetooth system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobrajet View Post
    I had a 1995 Sportage back in the late 1990s. Man, you wanna talk about 'an early Kia'. That thing didn't even have a Kia engine in it. It had the same 2.0 that Mazda put in the B2000 pickups back in the 1980s. Matter of fact, it didn't even have any airbags.

    Reliable rig, but I could never keep a set of auto-locking hubs in it for very long. They would always fail, and I think I went through about three sets.
    I forgot about that, kinda like a Chevy Tracker. My old Ford Escort, that my Mirage replaced also had a Mazda engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dspace9 View Post
    I forgot about that, kinda like a Chevy Tracker. My old Ford Escort, that my Mirage replaced also had a Mazda engine.
    I kinda doubt that your escort had a mazda engine. I thought only the early 90's gt escorts had the 1.8L mazda engine and everything else came with a ford engine.
    The tracker wasn't a chevy with a suzuki engine it was a suzuki vehicle with a chevy emblem.

    It appears that kia bought engines from mazda and installed them in their little suv. Mazda didn't build suv's that early.

    To keep this train off track.....

    For some stupid reason I watched over half of a Snotty Kilmer video last night. The title said something like "why mazda is the best mfg" or something like that. Then he went on talking about the entire history of Mazda from the early 1900's to now, I stopped watching around the time he got to the 90's(about 20-25 mins in). It was the longest Mazda commercial I've ever watched!

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    My 1998 Escort wagon was a good car, I had tapes that I found at the wreckers. Beach boys greatest hits and weezer's blue album.

    I like the tech behind old Mazda RX 7's. I saw an RX 8 yesterday at the tire store, and also saw another one of those 5 door Porsches. Actually got talking to the owner for a moment since we all have to wait outside because of covid. Anyway well dressed compared to me but what is the point of a Porsche hatchback sedan in the winter. Looks like old Boxster parts all over the place. Impressive thing still, and the engine sounded good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dspace9 View Post
    My 1998 Escort wagon was a good car, I had tapes that I found at the wreckers. Beach boys greatest hits and weezer's blue album.

    I like the tech behind old Mazda RX 7's. I saw an RX 8 yesterday at the tire store, and also saw another one of those 5 door Porsches. Actually got talking to the owner for a moment since we all have to wait outside because of covid. Anyway well dressed compared to me but what is the point of a Porsche hatchback sedan in the winter. Looks like old Boxster parts all over the place. Impressive thing still, and the engine sounded good.
    I just picked up a beach boys greatest hits kinda album "Best of summer" to my disappointment the man with all the toys is apparently not a beach song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    Nope! I love my decked-out Speck, a 2015 ES. With a standard transmission to boot. Can't do that anymore.

    Can't speak for everyone else of course lol.
    Outside of alloy wheels & push button start what other features are missing on a current 2021 ES manual?
    Good point - not much!

    But I love my Mirage and am glad for all the features it was built with, especially the Keyless Operating System, automatic climate controls, electric cabin heater, air conditioning, cruise control, all on top of it's outstanding fuel economy. The notion of having stripped-down transportation is okay, but I have that taken care of.

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2015 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 49.7 mpg (US) ... 21.1 km/L ... 4.7 L/100 km ... 59.7 mpg (Imp)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Clessy View Post
    I just picked up a beach boys greatest hits kinda album "Best of summer" to my disappointment the man with all the toys is apparently not a beach song.
    Eggman names 6 great features on his Mirage, and my Mirage has 1 of those 6 features lol. We both have heating in our Mirages.

    I think the one feature in my Mirage I love the most is the USB stereo. I have literally thousands of songs and CDs, all at the touch of a button. No need to rewind. The day I picked up my Mirage I also entered the 21st century.

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 214 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 41.8 mpg (US) ... 17.8 km/L ... 5.6 L/100 km ... 50.2 mpg (Imp)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobrajet View Post
    ...nicer seat fabric, 6-way adjustable driver's seat, steering wheel audio controls, cruise control, silver or chrome trim on the dash vents and radio/climate controls, chrome front interior door handles, integrated Bluetooth system.
    Well Mark was saying between the 15 ES and the 21 ES. But I did forget the chrome front door handles and the chrome vents.
    -Karl B. 2015 DE 5 speed x 2 and 2015 ES CVT. Plenty of other cars as well.

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    Just got a Bruce Hornsby and the Range CD for $3. Love my cd player!



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