2020 SE fog lights?

[Space Wolf]

Pics?

The LED's of the DRL are clearly visible. On a closer look 'thing' in the middle seems to be a lens, which suggests there is something behind it. But if the fog light is on you see a ring of light (if you can set yourself to looking at it), which suggests the DRL LED's generate it.

[Fummins]

The LED's of the DRL are clearly visible. On a closer look 'thing' in the middle seems to be a lens, which suggests there is something behind it. But if the fog light is on you see a ring of light (if you can set yourself to looking at it), which suggests the DRL LED's generate it.

Fancy! We don't get anything that nice out here.

The fog lights in my 2014 are just use a single h11 light bulb. The DRL is the high beam headlight element. I assume the OP's fog lights are just like Mark described, fog light with 2 bulbs. 1 for drl and one for fog.

[Mark]

Fancy! We don't get anything that nice out here.

The fog lights in my 2014 are just use a single h11 light bulb. The DRL is the high beam headlight element. I assume the OP's fog lights are just like Mark described, fog light with 2 bulbs. 1 for drl and one for fog.

I tried to download a couple owner's manual outside of my own.

I was able to download a 2019 Mirage owner's manual for the UK. They also show two types of fog lights. Type 1 has a single fog light bulb, & type 2 has both a fog light bulb & a DRL bulb.

I was not able to find/download a current Canadian owner's manual. I was able to download a 2015 Canadian Mirage owner's manual, & it didn't show two types of fog lights (only type 1).

[Mark]

Is this intentional or should I stop by the dealer and ask them to fix it?

In my opinion, it makes no sense to have what looks like fog lights only functioning as day running lights. I find that to be very lame!

Fog lights work in conjunction with low beam headlights. Every Mirage owner's manual (United States, Canada, & the UK) I was able to find on line states that when the highlights are turned off (or if you click to high beam), the fog lights will go off. I could see where the DRL in the fog light housing may come on when the headlights are turned off, but it doesn't explain the lack of functioning fog lights that work in conjunction with your low beam headlights.

I would read my owner's manual & go back to the dealer. I would politely ask your salesman to explain the operation of your fog lights. He used fog lights as a selling point to you. If he can't get them to function with your low beam headlights, I would ask that he corrects that. Even if that means, having to install sometime else in place of what is already there. I would start out polite, but I wouldn't leave without working fog lights.

[Fummins]

In my opinion, it makes no sense to have what looks like fog lights only functioning as day running lights. I find that to be very lame!

Fog lights work in conjunction with low beam headlights. Every Mirage owner's manual (United States, Canada, & the UK) I was able to find on line states that when the highlights are turned off (or if you click to high beam), the fog lights will go off. I could see where the DRL in the fog light housing may come on when the headlights are turned off, but it doesn't explain the lack of functioning fog lights that work in conjunction with your low beam headlights.

I would read my owner's manual & go back to the dealer. I would politely ask your salesman to explain the operation of your fog lights. He used fog lights as a selling point to you. If he can't get them to function with your low beam headlights, I would ask that he corrects that. Even if that means, having to install sometime else in place of what is already there. I would start out polite, but I wouldn't leave without working fog lights.

Very lame, I'd take a look in the under hood fuse box and see if the relay is there for the fog lights(if it's the same as older models). Try to reach down and feel if both bulbs are there or post a pic of the front and or rear of the light?
I guess I'd be annoyed if the salesman said a vehicle had something when it really didn't.
This happened to the wife. They claimed the vehicle she picked had remote start. It didn't. She *****ed enough and the dealer installed an aftermarket remote start.

[Eggman]

It all sounds interesting and not necessarily a malfunction. Maybe it’s a new feature and we will all want halo foglights now.

[Mark]

It all sounds interesting and not necessarily a malfunction. Maybe it’s a new feature and we will all want halo foglights now.

What would be the purpose of installing a fog light assembly on a brand new car & not have functioning fog lights?

I could see someone not liking the looks of not having fog lights, installing them, & not hooking them up. Just doing it for cosmetic appearance.

I don't see anything in any owner's manual referring to the fog light assembly as being a DRL only function, but I haven't found a 2017+ Canadian Mirage owner's manual on line.

If all Mirages used the fog light assembly to cover the DRL mandate in Canada, that would be more understandable. I have the impression that's not the case, however.

If nothing else, we are doing a great job of keeping this thread going!

[PityOnU]

The LED's of the DRL are clearly visible. On a closer look 'thing' in the middle seems to be a lens, which suggests there is something behind it. But if the fog light is on you see a ring of light (if you can set yourself to looking at it), which suggests the DRL LED's generate it.

I would love to know the part number for these fogs in case it is marked somewhere on there!

[dspace9]

What would be the purpose of installing a fog light assembly on a brand new car & not have functioning fog lights?

I could see someone not liking the looks of not having fog lights, installing them, & not hooking them up. Just doing it for cosmetic appearance.

I don't see anything in any owner's manual referring to the fog light assembly as being a DRL only function, but I haven't found a 2017+ Canadian Mirage owner's manual on line.

If all Mirages used the fog light assembly to cover the DRL mandate in Canada, that would be more understandable. I have the impression that's not the case, however.

If nothing else, we are doing a great job of keeping this thread going!

Manufacturer's cheapness, cheaping out is the only explanation. 1 parts bin for column stalks, 1 1990s era parts bin for power windows and mirrors.

You may be driving a car with some parts made in Illinois, as well as Japan and Thailand. If the 3 cylinder engine is similar to the Smart car's engine, then you also have Daimler-Chrysler genes floating around under the hood.

To further complicate matters my own ES 2014 Mirage does not have the fake fog lights switch. Nope, bare bones is bare bones. Kinda funny and ironic that only the middle brow trim levels have fake switches. And only the cheap and the luxury trims have 100% functioning switches in their car.

[Eggman]

You may be driving a car with some parts made in Illinois, as well as Japan and Thailand.

Nope - 90% Thailand, 0% US/Canada.