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    I'm gonna go with bigger is better. No exceptions.
    I bet this thing handles like it's on rails. Attachment 20530


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    Waaaaaaay too much sidewall there to flex! Real professionals upgrade to this level of donkness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fummins View Post
    I'm gonna go with bigger is better. No exceptions.
    I bet this thing handles like it's on rails. Attachment 20530
    Sweet. Think of the brakes that can fit inside those babies. Oil changes would be a snap.

    Quote Originally Posted by inuvik View Post
    Waaaaaaay too much sidewall there to flex! Real professionals upgrade to this level of donkness.

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    Now you're killing me. I gotta go measure Speck for some upgrades.

    By the way is this still considered on-topic?

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    Anyway, back to the topic at hand. l have little experience in the tire and rim department...only know how to take them off, replace tire from rim and balance them. lt would help us out Wolf if you gave more info on why you want to upgrade? l know you said better handling, but the stock size tires give me plenty of handling and are very good in the snow with winter tires. Also bigger and wider tires decrease fuel economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MirageRally View Post
    Anyway, back to the topic at hand. l have little experience in the tire and rim department...only know how to take them off, replace tire from rim and balance them. lt would help us out Wolf if you gave more info on why you want to upgrade? l know you said better handling, but the stock size tires give me plenty of handling and are very good in the snow with winter tires. Also bigger and wider tires decrease fuel economy.
    True, true and true. It definitely helps to define the goals & objectives. If fuel economy is not a big concern, there's that. But that's what the Mirage is best at - economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inuvik View Post
    Waaaaaaay too much sidewall there to flex! Real professionals upgrade to this level of donkness.

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    What about 240" wheels and no tire?
    This was a bit of a fail and didn't last more than a few seconds lol Attachment 20532

    I'm done now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MirageRally View Post
    Anyway, back to the topic at hand. l have little experience in the tire and rim department...only know how to take them off, replace tire from rim and balance them. lt would help us out Wolf if you gave more info on why you want to upgrade? l know you said better handling, but the stock size tires give me plenty of handling and are very good in the snow with winter tires. Also bigger and wider tires decrease fuel economy.
    There are many factors that go into tires. Some wider LRR tires may produce a better mpg rating than narrower tires. Top Fuel has shared wonderful information on that topic. I don't think that I could expand on that.

    14" - Some Mirage owners with 165/65r14 tires may decide to try 175/65r14 tires, because there are literally 10x more options to pick from. They may or may not find an improvement in handling, & they may or may not find an impact on economy.

    15" - Likewise, someone with 175/55r15 tires (few choices/overpriced) may try 185/55r15 tires for the same reason.

    A 175/65r14 tire & a 185/55r15 tire have the exact same 23" outside diameter. I'm not sure the "bigger the better" argument applies here?

    larger rims = lower profile tire = better handling (in theory)
    smaller rims = higher profile tire = better ride (in theory)

    It's really hard to make a blanket statement about tires. The design of tires can vary quite a bit.

    I have a cousin who lives in Milwaukee. He bought a very nice car ($35,000+) a number of years ago that has very low profile tires. If he visits me in the spring & my driveway is a bit soft, his rims are in the dirt. He hates the ride of his car. He hates it so much that he now parks his nice car in his mom's garage during the winter months when the roads are at their worst. He bought an old 2007 Colorado pickup truck that comes standard with 15" wheels & high profile tires to drive during the winter.

    A person with 15" Mirage wheels could buy a set of 14" winter wheels & consider that an upgrade. It really comes down to what a person wants from their tires. That includes traction, handling, tread life, etc....

    In trying to answer the original post -

    165/65r14 (22.4")
    175/65r14 (23")
    185/60r14 (22.7")

    175/55r15 (22.6")
    185/55r15 (23")

    seem to be the most common tire sizes forum members use without issue. It's not uncommon to hear about rubbing issues with 195+ wide tires, but offset of rims & other factor also come into play here, too.

    Top Fuel is currently experimenting with larger 185/65r15 tires (24.5"). I'm sure he'll share his thoughts about them with us some day.
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    Sweet, thanks for the info Mark! l'm sure Wolf will appreciate all the tire sizes and the differences between them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    Thank you for the info I think i will stick to the 14 inch and go with the 175 tires. Thanks for the info
    Both my Mirages run 175 65 r14 tires. Your mpg will take a slight hit but its not a big deal.

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    Well i went with the 175 65 r14 tires but I would like to get some nice looking rims. Not crazy about stock rims and hub caps. Thats my next project. Might just leave the tires and rims as they are for winter since they are winter tires. And go tires and wheels. But will stick with the 14 inch wheels. Just got to find a good place in ottawa for a good deal on wheels and tires installed.



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