Poll: 1.0L Mirage engine = 7.5% better fuel economy. Would you choose it?

[grsupercity]

First national Mirage hill climb

[Dorifuta]

Also, am I the only one here who's thinking how the Fiesta 1.0 EcoBoost would have the Mirage all over its ass if they released a 3A90T?

[MetroMPG]

Oh yeah, good point!

It'll be interesting to see sales numbers for the Fiesta 1.0t in the U.S....if Ford will break them down that way for us.

[Dorifuta]

Of course, that would make me sad, because then I'd have to spend over $5,000 to swap my engine and transmission.

I mean, they would give the 1.0T a 6 speed to match the Fiesta tit-for-tat with a proper overdrive 6th, wouldn't they? :O

[grsupercity]

Just grab a 6 speed from a mr evo or an old 3000gt vr4

[m4v3r1ck]

I really think we need 6th gear. I was cruising at 3500 rpm at 120-130 km/hr. But then again, when the wind was as hard as yesterday (100 km/hour) I'm happy it drives at high rpm, eco meter went all the way down to red on highway at constant speed!

[m4v3r1ck]

In the CVT, you won't feel it as bad, it is still there since it is a low powered car trying to go up a hill.
I drive manual, so I have to shift down 3 gears so it will even maintain speed.
There is a huge hill down south, which I am NEVER going to try and go up, my last car was revving hard getting up it and it is twice as powerful. Trucks usually go up it around 20km/h it is that steep.

Try it try it try it!!!

[Canoehead]

In the CVT, you won't feel it as bad, it is still there since it is a low powered car trying to go up a hill.
I drive manual, so I have to shift down 3 gears so it will even maintain speed.
There is a huge hill down south, which I am NEVER going to try and go up, my last car was revving hard getting up it and it is twice as powerful. Trucks usually go up it around 20km/h it is that steep.

The Mirage is very light, though, and semis can weigh 80 000lbs. When you try it let us know how it does!

Power is an interesting measurement, in that how the vehicle feels depends a lot on where in the RPM range the power and torque reaches a peak and how wide that peak curve is, not just the maximum numbers. The truck brochures I used to read as a child usually had graphs in them, and I recall that ideally you wanted to see the torque come up quickly and then stay high through the range. I had two motorcycles, and the 250cc felt more powerful than the 750cc, just because unless I got the 750 up over 5000rpms very little power/torque was available - it was made for racing back in the early 70s, while the 250 was an enduro - made for quick starts at lower speeds.

[m4v3r1ck]

Torgue especially at lower range is what makes you feel it's powerful. Most racing cars has to rev at high rpm to get the power and has to stay at high rpm.

Mirage is just fun to drive, left a VW Golf behind this time at the same 90 degree corner, it was fun.

[25Plus]

I chose the 1.2 liter motor because the 1.0 would be to slow in my opinion. The 1.2 liter engine is strong enough to climb nearly all gradients in 5th gear, which would not be possible with the 1.0 liter engine. The difference between the 1.0 and 1.2 liter engine is about 0,25 l/100 km, which means a 5 % better fuel economy for the 1.0. Nevertheless I reached 3.5 l/100 km several times on my commute with my Space Star 1.2 even with the first two fills and 3.4 l/100 km one time. The on-board computer and the calculated fuel economy match perfectly.

Here are fuel economy figures for the 1.0 and 1.2 liter engine:
Space Star 1.0: 4,9 l/100 km
Space Star 1.2 5-spd: 5,15 l/100 km

You have to consider that the 1.2 liter version comes with more features compared to some 1.0 liter versions such as air conditioning and other comfort features.