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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    I am not asking you to sell your car, I am not following a single thing you say here?

    What's a fair price for 2015 Mirage DE manual with 19,000 miles in today's market?

    You are the one questioning his $7,990 asking price, & you're basing that off of a Mirage he listed 4 years ago?

    I searched the entire country (cars.com & autotrader.com) for Mirage manuals with under 20,000 miles. These are the cheapest one I can find in today's market -

    cars.com
    2018 ES manual with 16,963 miles for $11,977.
    2019 ES manual with 16,821 miles for $12,232
    2019 ES manual - listed below for $12,779.
    2018 ES manual listed bellow for $13,245.
    2019 ES manual with 4,502 miles for $13,490.
    2019 ES manual with 12,454 miles for $13,995.
    2020 ES manual with 11,036 miles for $14,147
    2020 ES manual listed below for $14,449.
    2019 ES manual with 12,791 miles for $14,995.
    2020 ES manual listed below for $15,000.
    2020 ES manual with 15,386 miles for $15,525.
    2020 ES manual with 10,730 miles for $15,595.
    2021 ES manual with 4,556 miles for $15,998.
    2020 ES manual with 319 miles for $16,400.
    2020 ES manual with 18,593 miles for $16,497.
    2020 ES manual with 4,045 miles for $17,590.
    2020 ES manual with 18,885 miles for $18,950.

    autotrader.com
    2015 DE manual with 28,128 miles for $8,772 (not under 20,000 miles, but I am including it just the same)
    2018 ES manual same car on cars.com for $11,997.
    2019 ES manual with 13,191 miles for $11,999.
    2018 ES manual with 8,538 miles for $12,591.
    2019 ES manual with 19,007 miles for $12,779.
    2018 ES manual with 11,321 miles for $13,245 (reduced price)
    2018 ES manual with 4,895 miles for $13,995.
    2020 ES manual with 4,933 miles for $14,499.
    2020 ES manual with 7,204 miles for $15,000.
    2021 ES manual with 2,231 miles for $15,840.
    2020 ES manual with 10,701 miles for $15,995.
    2020 ES manual with 11,190 miles for $16,450.
    2019 ES manual with 3,470 miles for $16,995.

    This is the current Mirage manual low mileage (under 20,000 miles) market. This is very drastic change in the used car pricing of the Mirage. I only searched for manuals. I did a "manual" sort, but I didn't 100% confirm these are all manuals on each site.

    First conclusion - A 2014-15 Mirage manual that's under 20,000 miles is very rare. I didn't find one.

    A 2015 DE manual with 19,000 miles for $7,990 doesn't look that out of line to me. Like I just said, a 2015 manual with that low of mileage is quite rare. Compared to the 2015 DE manual with 28,128 miles for $8,772 above, I feel his $7990 Mirage with less mileage is a good deal.

    Eggman - When you say the car market hasn't changed that much from 4 years ago, I would really question that? It's changed drastically in the last few months!

    Anyone could have bought a 2021 Mirage for $10,999 in April. If you were a Mitsubishi owner, it would have been $9,999 for a brand new Mirage ES manual (after the $1,000 loyalty rebate) @ White Bear.

    You're not going to touch a low mileage (under 20,000 miles) used Mirage for under $10,000 now unless it's a 2014-15.

    Given the current market, $7990 is a good deal on any Mirage (regardless of the year) with under 20,000 miles (provided it's in good shape & not a salvage/rebuilt title).

    I've explained where I am coming from, but I don't understand where you are coming from at all?

    A low mileage 2015 ES manual with all those fancy extra features is probably priceless!

    I just leave it at that!
    Mark, you complain over and over about the prices on these cars, particularly new prices. I can't understand how you justify this increase in price! Even applezz13 gets it and makes it clear in that post without getting all wordy!

    Quote Originally Posted by applezz13 View Post
    That Carvana price is what drove me to buy a 2021. When I was looking foe a 2-4 year old model they were all around 12K in my area. New was 11900, what a weird car world currently.
    Mark, what would you pay for a old, used, low-mileage Mirage? I would not pay $8,000 plus taxes, title, etc. Maybe we should go back over your old posts for evidence?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    Mark, you complain over and over about the prices on these cars, particularly new prices. I can't understand how you justify this increase in price! Even applezz13 gets it and makes it clear in that post without getting all wordy!


    Mark, what would you pay for a old, used, low-mileage Mirage? I would not pay $8,000 plus taxes, title, etc. Maybe we should go back over your old posts for evidence?
    Eggman - We are on a totally different wavelength here, & as far as I am concerned I am thankful for that.

    I wouldn't pay more than $10,000 for a Mirage. I have said that several times on this forum. My opinion of the value of a Mirage has NOTHING to do with today's market. My price limit is based on what I am willing to pay for a daily driver. I'd rather pay off my property & spend money on other things.

    Today's market has drastically changed!

    Sure, Applezz13 gets it. Most of us get it, but Applezz13 may struggle finding that same deal today.

    I became interested in a Mirage when I found out they could be had for $9,000-9,500 brand new all summer long & into the fall of 2017. A brand new Mirage for under $10,000 OTD caught my attention. It's why I have one in the driveway.

    Times have changed. If I wanted to buy a Mirage @ White Bear today, they have one remaining manual that lists for $14,399 (no rebates listed). In 2017, White Bear had access to 50-60+ Mirages. Today their inventory is 12 Mirages (11 CVT & 1 manual).

    If I bought a new Mirage from White Bear today, it would cost $5,000+ more than what I paid 4 years ago.

    Current prices of new Mirages suck!

    Likewise, prices of used Mirages also suck if you are trying to buy one.

    No one cares what you or I would pay for any Mirage. I searched the entire country for a low mileage (under 20,000 mile) Mirage manual using cars.com/autotrader.com. A 2015 DE manual with 19,000 miles for $7,990 is better than anything else I could find. Would I pay that for one? If I desperately needed a car, I would strongly consider it.

    I have been very clear with my postings on this forum. I bought a brand new Mirage, because it was around $10,000 OTD & delivered to my driveway for free. That, however, has nothing to do with today's pricing. A 2021 Mirage today would cost me about $15,600 OTD. At that price, I would consider the $7,990 2015 DE manual.

    Thankfully, I am not in the market for a car. If someone can hold off, I wouldn't recommend anyone buying a Mirage today. Then again, things may not change any time soon?

    When brand new Mirages were selling for $9,000-11,000 these past few years, a slightly used one for $7,900 didn't looked very appealing. Brand new Mirages are selling for $14,000-20,000 today. That's a huge difference, & the used car market parallels that. ​

    I don't think I am being a hypocrite at all. Nothing about my opinion of the Mirage has changed. I really like my Mirage. I still wouldn't pay a lot of money for one. There's no way I would pay over $10,000 for one. That a personal limit, & it has no bearing on the current market.

    Eggman - You say you wouldn't pay $8,000 for a 2018 DE manual with 19,000. If you needed a Mirage today, please share the one you would buy?

    Don't come back with I am not in the market for one. You're quick to tell us what you wouldn't buy. Now take the time to tell us what Mirage you would buy in today's market. Find that car & share it with us! I would love to know?
    Last edited by Mark; 07-20-2021 at 01:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Eggman - We are on a totally different wavelength here, & as far as I am concerned I am thankful for that.
    Well, almost.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Current prices of new Mirages suck!

    Likewise, prices of used Mirages also suck if you are trying to buy one.
    Thanks for agreeing with me. This is all you had to say without writing (yet another) book.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Eggman - You say you wouldn't pay $8,000 for a 2018 DE manual with 19,000. If you needed a Mirage today, please share the one you would buy?

    Don't come back with I am not in the market for one.
    Sorry Mark, but Iím not in the market for any car whatsoever. Rather the opposite and ought to let one go. Maybe some day but not right now.

    If for some reason I lost my trusty, well-equipped Speck I doubt Iíd get another.

    Oh, and I still think $8,000 is asking too much for a car that Carvana couldnít sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    Well, almost.


    Thanks for agreeing with me. This is all you had to say without writing (yet another) book.


    Sorry Mark, but I’m not in the market for any car whatsoever. Rather the opposite and ought to let one go. Maybe some day but not right now.

    If for some reason I lost my trusty, well-equipped Speck I doubt I’d get another.

    Oh, and I still think $8,000 is asking too much for a car that Carvana couldn’t sell.
    Did you miss the point that Carvana was selling this car for $5,000 more ($13,000 instead of $7990)? Duh!!!! This is what I hate about comments like this! You are not stating the facts correctly! You are twisting the narrative, and that's extremely lame coming from someone who claims to be a moderator on this forum. ​

    You have the right to your opinion, but you don't have the right to make up your own facts. It's okay to say you wouldn't pay $7990 for a low mileage Mirage in today's market. If you also wanted to state Carvana couldn't sell this same car for $13,000, I wouldn't be having this discussion with YOU!

    Also - "That Carvana price is what drove me to buy a 2021. When I was looking foe a 2-4 year old model they were all around 12K in my area. New was 11900, what a weird car world currently." This quote doesn't prove your point that much either.

    The above quote wasn't comparing his purchase to a low mileage $8,000 Mirage at all. He was saying 2017+ used Mirages were priced quite high ($12,000+). ​

    I guess it's nice to know if you were selling your low mileage Mirage, it's not worth much to you (despite the current market).

    Just so we are clear here - I don't agree with you one bit. I don't really appreciate being called a hypocrite under the circumstances either. I seriously expect much better from this forum!
    Last edited by Mark; 07-20-2021 at 03:34 AM.

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