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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    I realize some members have moved on to bigger & better tires (maybe). Using a 175/65r14 size tire opens up many more options, and the same can be said of 185/55r15 tires for 15" wheels. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    When discussing affordable 165/65r14 tire options, the Federal SS657 tires come up quite often. I can say from personal experience, they are a good option (if priced right).

    I have started to take note of some other tires being offered in the 165/65r14 tire size at various tire sites. The lack of Federal tires being offered may have caused that somewhat. Unlike most cheaper Chinese tires, these tires come with decent UTQG ratings & warranties. As I explored them some more, I discovered they all come from the same tire company source.

    I bring this all up for a couple reasons -

    1. If you have experience with these tire companies, I would love for you to share your experience with them.

    2. If you are shopping for factory size 14" tires, these may be an option to consider. I have zero experience with them, & I am not endorsing them. I wouldn't be afraid to try them if the price was right, however.

    So the new tires that seem the most interesting to me are the -

    Landsail LS388 - these tires have a decent 500AA UTQG rating & come with a 50,000 mile warranty. Found today @ walmart.com, tires-easy.com, simpletire.com, & others most likely.

    Delinte DH2 - these tires have a 420AA UTQG rating (same as Federal SS657), but have a better 50,000 mile warranty. Found today @ walmart.com, tires-easy.com, simpletire.com, & others most likely.

    Pantera Touring A/S - these tires have a 500AA UTQG rating & 60,000 mile warranty. Found today @ simpletire.com.

    These tires are all connected to Sentury Tires.

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    "Delinte tires are made in China, Thailand and the USA by fast-growing Chinese-based manufacturer Sentury Tire.

    "Landsail was founded in 2010 and is a sub-brand that is owned by the Chinese tire company Sentury Tires. Landsail tires are manufactured at factories located in China and exported to over 100 countries globally. The brand creates a range of budget tires for several vehicle types that include sedans, minivans, crossovers, SUV’s, and light trucks. The brand's tires are not your typical cheap Asian products but are designed at state-of-the-art facilities, which operate machinery designed in Germany, Japan, and the United States. This is a great brand to consider in the budget category."

    Pantera Tire is the Tire Alliance Group's, Exclusive Brand, produced by Sentury Tire in their state of the art, fully automated, world class factories. This brand covers an extensive array of vehicle fitments on the road today with a broad range of tire sizes.

    I like seeing less expensive tire options (verses the Dunlop & Bridgestone). These past few years, Federal, Nexen, and Kumho tires have appeared. If these Sentury tire brands are decent tires, it would be nice to add them to the list. If all these tires were priced the same, I would most likely stick with the more proven Nexen & Kumho brands. If there was a savings, however, I may give these brands a try.

    Unlike the European (& other places) tire market, our 165/65r14 tire choices still remain quite small. I am just putting this out there for people shopping for factory size 14" tires for a Mirage. I am not a big fan of cheap Chinese tires, but these different (Sentury related) brands may be better than those?

    If someone bashes these Sentury made tires, it will not hurt my feelings. I have just taken note of them & found the connection between them interesting. Plus, more & more places are starting to carry them in the 165/65r14 size.
    I had Sentury tires and they were great! Even good in light snow on my AWC Lancer, Mirage G4 and now my ex's Venue!


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    Quote Originally Posted by remusrm View Post
    I had Sentury tires and they were great! Even good in light snow on my AWC Lancer, Mirage G4 and now my ex's Venue!
    That's good to hear!

    Walmart has been carrying the 165/65r14 Kumho Solus TA31 (500AA/60,000 mile warranty) for $62.80 the past few weeks. Walmart offers free mounting with tire purchase. Installation costs would be $14/tire for lifetime balance & $1.50/tire for disposal of old tires. Lately, the 165/65r14 Kumho tires are listed cheaper than some of lesser known Chinese tire brands.

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    I promise I am not bashing you, but in the tire industry we desperately try to understand our customers, many whom make statements like this. I responded in italics inside your quote.

    Quote Originally Posted by dspace9 View Post
    I'm very suspicious of any tire brand's warranty claims.
    OK, how so?

    I have 8 new tires for my Mirage right now, as you know, and they're all made in South Korea. Personally, I would buy South Korean tires, or Taiwan-made tires, any day.
    Good to know, I personally think Korean tires can offer great value for the money

    I had Nexen winter tires in 2009, back on my Escort station wagon (fully-loaded). They were an improvement over my all seasons. Not as stark a difference as my Mirage's having gone from all seasons, to winter in the winters.
    the Nexen winters were an improvement over your all seasons in winter? Or in all seasons?

    So, like I said, I am pretty wary of any warranty claim by any tire manufacturer. My new Kuhmo's have a 100,000 km warranty. Maybe just try to get new ones when the time comes??
    This is where we in the industry get confused. You have just made two points that were important to you, and I fully validate them, however I don't see how they relate to warranty claims at all. Perhaps they weren't intended to, but you started with that topic, and then ended with a definitive statement on that topic again, so it feels as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basic View Post
    I promise I am not bashing you, but in the tire industry we desperately try to understand our customers, many whom make statements like this. I responded in italics inside your quote.
    He has some faith in tire brands that come from Taiwan (Federal maybe?) & South Korea (Nexen & Kumho).

    He also questions the warranty offered by tire companies. Seems simple to me?

    Should consumers expect to 75,000 miles on all tires claiming 75,000 mile warranties? Or should consumers be a bit skeptical about those claims?

    Common sense may tell a person that many different factors may determine how long your tires may last. I can only speculate on that, however, because I am not a tire engineer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    He has some faith in tire brands that come from Taiwan (Federal maybe?) & South Korea (Nexen & Kumho).
    IDK, Nexen is Japanese, and I supported his faith in Korean brands.

    He also questions the warranty offered by tire companies. Seems simple to me?
    Maybe? I still dont get it

    Should consumers expect to 75,000 miles on all tires claiming 75,000 mile warranties? Or should consumers be a bit skeptical about those claims?
    1000% you should expect that with proper inflation and rotation. If not, you should return the tires through the manufacturers warranty process with documentation and receive reimbursement.

    Common sense may tell a person that many different factors may determine how long your tires may last. I can only speculate on that, however, because I am not a tire engineer.
    No factors pertaining to the tire should determine how long your tire should last... unless it is a manufacturing defect, which happens, and which is why warranties exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basic View Post
    Really, no factors? Bad alignment on a car is not a factor? Someone who drives mostly straight roads verses curvy roads is not a factor? Improper vs proper air pressure is not a factor?

    Are you saying all individuals should get the exact same mileage out of their tires, because there are no outside factors that should change that?

    Only defective tires don't reach the mileage claims of manufacturers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Really, no factors? Bad alignment on a car is not a factor? Someone who drives mostly straight roads verses curvy roads is not a factor? Improper vs proper air pressure is not a factor?

    Are you saying all individuals should get the exact same mileage out of their tires, because there are no outside factors that should change that?

    Only defective tires don't reach the mileage claims of manufacturers?
    No, I am saying that things like alignment have nothing to do with the tire... and I literally stated proper inflation must be maintained. If your car is maintained properly and you don't abuse the tire, it should achieve the stated mileage warranty, and if it doesn't, you should go through the warranty process and be compensated.

    Regardless, none of this helps me understand statements like "I am vary wary of any tire brands warranty claims" or "I don't buy into the LRR hype" and that is all I am trying to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basic View Post
    No, I am saying that things like alignment have nothing to do with the tire... and I literally stated proper inflation must be maintained. If your car is maintained properly and you don't abuse the tire, it should achieve the stated mileage warranty, and if it doesn't, you should go through the warranty process and be compensated.

    Regardless, none of this helps me understand statements like "I am vary wary of any tire brands warranty claims" or "I don't buy into the LRR hype" and that is all I am trying to do.
    Thanks for clarifying your statement.

    I don't think it's unusual of customers to be leery of tire warranty claims, but I feel better tires comes with better warranties. Tires with a better UTQG rating will hopefully perform better than tires with a lower rating, too. Some of the better known 165/65r14 tire options for the States are listed below -

    Federal SS657 (420AA/40,000 mile warranty)
    Kumho Solus TA31 (500AA/60,000 mile warranty)
    Nexen N'Priz AH5 (460AA/50,000 mile warranty)

    Vredestein Quatrac 5 (400AA/40,000 mile warranty)

    Falken Sincera SN250A A/S (320BB/no warranty)
    Bridgestone Potenza (260AB/40,000 mile warranty)
    Dunlop Enasave (340AB/no warranty)

    Nokian Nordman 7 (snow tires aren’t rated) - studded/non-studded option
    Dunlop Winter Maxx 2 (snow tires aren’t rated) ​

    Top Fuel has made an excellent case for his switching to 185/55r15 LRR tires & lightweight rims. He's not only got great fuel economy out of his tire, but they also lived up to their warranty claim. If someone wants more tire options (including features like LRR), using a different tire size may be something to strongly consider.


    Last edited by Mark; 10-16-2021 at 05:51 PM.

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