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Thread: Mirage G4 sedan North American U.S. debut / launch date

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    Usally a car of this size would add about 150 to 200lbs. So it would be like driving around with a passenger full time



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    sedan vs. hatch specs: weight, MPG

    Australian specs:

    Hatchback ES (base trim) Sedan ES (base trim)
    Curb weight 5MT (kg/lbs) 865 / 1907 925 / 2037
    Curb weight CVT (kg/lbs) 890 / 1962 940 / 2072
    Fuel economy 5MT & CVT
    (combined L/100 km / mpg US)
    4.6 / 51 4.9 / 48

    Source: hatch / sedan

    Note: the fuel economy ratings aren't comparable to current U.S. EPA ratings. The Australian system is closer to the pre-2008 EPA method, which produces optimistic ratings that many people don't achieve.

    Also, the Oz Mirages (both hatch & sedan) are lighter than the U.S. & Canada ones.

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2014 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 62.4 mpg (US) ... 26.5 km/L ... 3.8 L/100 km ... 74.9 mpg (Imp)


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    Thanks MetroMPG.

    I have a new Australian spec Mirage sedan (manual). When I say "new", I mean that I drove it out of the showroom 2 weeks ago with 21 km on the odometer... but the car was manufactured mid-2014.

    Performance is lively enough with just me in the car, but with the whole family (total weight 270 kg, or about 600 pounds) and with the air conditioning on it is noticeable that I need to hold the gears a little longer and shift back maybe an extra gear on the hills.

    The rear seat is noticeably roomier than the hatch. I need to put the seat all the way back and recline it a little as well as I am very tall, but even then my wife can sit comfortably behind me. In the hatch the seat behind me would be pretty much unusable by anyone taller than a toddler. The real surprise is the amount of boot (trunk) space, which is not far off what you would expect in a large sedan.

    Biggest disappointment is the lack of a split-fold rear seat, which means that carrying longer items is difficult.

    In terms of fuel economy I got 5.9 l/100 km based on my first real fill-up yesterday. That is for mostly city commuting in heavy traffic, often with the air conditioning running. The claimed fuel consumption should be just about achievable by a reasonably skillful driver doing a mixture of city driving in moderate traffic and country driving.
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    Thanks for the owner perspective!

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2014 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 62.4 mpg (US) ... 26.5 km/L ... 3.8 L/100 km ... 74.9 mpg (Imp)


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    What are the differences in price??

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    Australian site says:


    • $13,940 AUD for the ES base 5MT hatch vs.
    • $15,990 for the ES base 5MT sedan.

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2014 Mirage ES 1.2 manual: 62.4 mpg (US) ... 26.5 km/L ... 3.8 L/100 km ... 74.9 mpg (Imp)


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    ^I love the Mirage, but I think an Aussie buyer would have to be mad to pay anywhere near that for a Mirage.

    A quick look on the most popular car selling website here shows brand new 2015 model mirage hatches and sedans still going for just under A$11K drive-away.

    Plastics, trim etc are very, very cheap in the Austraiian spec base Mirage, which probably explains some of the lighter weight. But we do get air conditioning and a decent (by my standards) stereo.

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    2K more for the sedan?!?!?! I really didnt think there would be that much difference in the price!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
    Australian site says:


    • $13,940 AUD for the ES base 5MT hatch vs.
    • $15,990 for the ES base 5MT sedan.
    Funny in US Nissan Versa sedan is cheaper than hatchback, so is Mazda3. Ford Fiesta same. You generally pay premium for hatchback.

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2015 Mirage DE 1.2 manual: 46.4 mpg (US) ... 19.7 km/L ... 5.1 L/100 km ... 55.7 mpg (Imp)


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    the 60:40 split seats for the sedan isn't possible because there's an X brace behind the seats.



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