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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallythacker View Post
    After two weeks or so of LED use I must say they are amazing. I really prefer the cool white light, it seems to increase the contrast greatly. You can have gobs and gobs of watts but without contrast they mean nothing.

    The pattern of my LEDs is perfect. I have incredible high beam range and amazing full road low beam coverage. I couldn't be happier.
    Can you post a pic of the pattern?.. Do you use a projector?



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    give me a day or so to scrouge up some pictures. I don't use a projector, just the bulbs in the housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallythacker View Post
    After two weeks or so of LED use I must say they are amazing. I really prefer the cool white light, it seems to increase the contrast greatly. You can have gobs and gobs of watts but without contrast they mean nothing.

    The pattern of my LEDs is perfect. I have incredible high beam range and amazing full road low beam coverage. I couldn't be happier.
    Good for you then.

    I dislike all the white headlights on the road. Even if they are properly aimed. I find them blinding as an oncoming driver, which hinders my ability to see. Even SUVs coming up behind me give a glare that makes it tough to drive.

    I don't care for them. As much as I like LEDs, I'd rather they have the color of halogens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    Good for you then.

    I dislike all the white headlights on the road. Even if they are properly aimed. I find them blinding as an oncoming driver, which hinders my ability to see. Even SUVs coming up behind me give a glare that makes it tough to drive.

    I don't care for them. As much as I like LEDs, I'd rather they have the color of halogens.
    My first LED H4's was the cool white type .. I hated it when it rains. I looked for a better one.. I'm using the warm white model which has about the same color as halogens. It's about 3 years old now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    Does MPH charge fees for access?

    Out of curiosity, I tried to browse that forum but was unable to see much.
    No charges .. but you need to register to access the web content. You have to be classified as Official Member to see full content. If your status is "LURKER", however, your access to some contents is limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitz View Post
    My first LED H4's was the cool white type .. I hated it when it rains. I looked for a better one.. I'm using the warm white model which has about the same color as halogens. It's about 3 years old now.
    Are you using 5000k or 4300k?
    Couls you post a pic of the beam pattern if its not too much to ask amd what brand of led bulbs are you using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    Good for you then.

    I dislike all the white headlights on the road. Even if they are properly aimed. I find them blinding as an oncoming driver, which hinders my ability to see. Even SUVs coming up behind me give a glare that makes it tough to drive.

    I don't care for them. As much as I like LEDs, I'd rather they have the color of halogens.
    It's so easy to determine which cars have LEDs these days. You can't miss the brilliant white. I remember when halogens first appeared and were so superior to the sealed beam incandescent they were replacing. I also remember so many people complaining of being blinded by halogen equipped cars and complaining about the color! Lol! i recall more than a few jurisdictions outlawed anything but sealed beams.

    It's the same thing all over again. A new technology has emerged and it is going to make obsolete the existing halogen lighting systems and they will disappear. And there's nothing that can stop it. Today I noticed my LEDs actually light up road signs in the daylight!!! That truly surprised me.

    You can't beat the dim yellow glow of a low powered incandescent filament shining through glass 1/2" thick!!! Lol. J/k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallythacker View Post
    Today I noticed my LEDs actually light up road signs in the daylight!!! That truly surprised me.
    That's not surprising considering many road signs are made with some impressive retroreflective material.

    Why not get HIDs? I hear they are even brighter than LED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    That's not surprising considering many road signs are made with some impressive retroreflective material.

    Why not get HIDs? I hear they are even brighter than LED.
    The short answer? LEDs simply dropped in as direct replacements for halogens. It couldn't be easier or any more cost effective for the performance I gained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosbik View Post
    Are you using 5000k or 4300k?
    Couls you post a pic of the beam pattern if its not too much to ask amd what brand of led bulbs are you using?
    This is the P6 LED that I'm using.. I purchased the 4300K though I personally think our eyes cannot discern the difference vs. 5000K



    LED chip: Luxeon MZ


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    P6 New Upgrade H4 LED Headlight Bulbs

    Backread here
    https://mirageforum.com/forum/showth...ll=1#post51403

    sample video from dash cam - under light rain condition (video converted to .gif so quality is somewhat degraded). I'm on VKOOL VK70 tint
    https://i.imgur.com/yLpOtSW.gif

    4300K H4 LEDs are somewhat difficult to find. I read somewhere that the cool white LEDs are cheap to produce, so, that explains why the warm white (4300K) version is priced 2-3x higher than the cool whites. So, the market trend will be towards the cool whites - they are more profitable to sell.

    If my P6 becomes busted, I will replace it w/ the warm white version even if it is pricier. I'll never go w/ the 6000K.

    A P6 that uses the ZES chip
    P6 45W H4



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